1. Subscribersonhouseonline
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    13 Jul '14 13:011 edit
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism

    Is it because theists cannot accept the idea that humans can guide their own destiny without constantly referencing to a god?

    There is even a Christian humanism movement:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_humanism
  2. Standard memberRJHinds
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    13 Jul '14 20:19
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism

    Is it because theists cannot accept the idea that humans can guide their own destiny without constantly referencing to a god?

    There is even a Christian humanism movement:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_humanism
    It is because it is the lie from Satan the devil.
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    13 Jul '14 20:37
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism

    Is it because theists cannot accept the idea that humans can guide their own destiny without constantly referencing to a god?

    There is even a Christian humanism movement:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_humanism
    "Is it because theists cannot accept the idea that humans can guide their own destiny without constantly referencing to a god?"

    Not true. What is there to fear? That humanity is being led by the machinations of man? That what we know to be true is defined by a mere product of time, chance and matter?

    Why fear that? What's the worse that can happen? We annihilate ourselves?
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    13 Jul '14 20:38
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    It is because it is the lie from Satan the devil.
    Unfortunately this one was only deemed worthy of a 2 / 10 troll rating ... please try harder in future.
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    13 Jul '14 21:14
    Originally posted by Agerg
    Unfortunately this one was only deemed worthy of a 2 / 10 troll rating ... please try harder in future.
    Why?

    Any time we try harder than that, all we hear in return is the sad old refrain: "Atheists don't believe in ANY gods, period." What a bunch of stick-in-the-muds.
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    13 Jul '14 21:16
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism

    Is it because theists cannot accept the idea that humans can guide their own destiny without constantly referencing to a god?

    There is even a Christian humanism movement:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_humanism
    Fear and hatred?

    No, just boredom. Complete and utter boredom.
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    13 Jul '14 21:221 edit
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    There is even a Christian humanism movement:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_humanism
    So, so you think you can tell
    Heaven from Hell,
    Blue skies from pain.
    Can you tell a green field
    From a cold steel rail?
    A smile from a veil?
    Do you think you can tell?

    Did they get you to trade
    Your heroes for ghosts?
    Hot ashes for trees?
    Hot air for a cool breeze?
    Cold comfort for change?
    Did you exchange
    A walk-on part in the war
    For a leading role in a cage?

    How I wish, how I wish you were here.
    We're just two lost souls
    Swimming in a fish bowl,
    Year after year,
    Running over the same old ground.
    What have we found?
    The same old fears.
    Wish you were here.
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