Originally posted by RJHinds I have no need for sanskit word. I accept the word of God from the Holy Bible.
And therein lies the problem with religion. People who get so brainwashed by their own religion, they use their so-called god as an excuse to kill. Such a spiritual thing to do. Kill people because you think your god approves or demands it.
You can't open your mind enough to even include the possibility of other religions having some kind of truth. Only MY religion has THE truth.
That is the biggest scam of religions of all kinds.
Originally posted by sonhouse And therein lies the problem with religion. People who get so brainwashed by their own religion, they use their so-called god as an excuse to kill. Such a spiritual thing to do. Kill people because you think your god approves or demands it.
You can't open your mind enough to even include the possibility of other religions having some kind of truth. Only MY religion has THE truth.
That is the biggest scam of religions of all kinds.
I am not using my religion as an excuse to kill. What excuse do you use to kill? Or do you just kill without excuse?
Originally posted by Dasa Do you mean the UN-Holy animal slaughtering Bible.
True Holy men do not subscribe to slaughtering animals and eating meat.
Any Holy man who eats meat is a false Holy man and a cheater of the innocent.
The most holy men were those that performed animal sacrifice. God looked with more favor on the animal sacrifice of Abel than the vegetable sacrifice of Cain. 😏
Originally posted by RJHinds The most holy men were those that performed animal sacrifice. God looked with more favor on the animal sacrifice of Abel than the vegetable sacrifice of Cain. 😏
HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!
Yeah, just look at how spiritual people like old Abe was, ready to plunge a knife into his own son to satisfy his lord. Or all those people your gracious god supposedly killed during the non-existent world wide flood. Yessir, a great religion you have there, jealous god and all.
Originally posted by sonhouse Yeah, just look at how spiritual people like old Abe was, ready to plunge a knife into his own son to satisfy his lord. Or all those people your gracious god supposedly killed during the non-existent world wide flood. Yessir, a great religion you have there, jealous god and all.
What would you say to the interpretation that God was testing Abraham to see if he'd do something immoral on command? That what God really wanted was for Abraham to defy the order?
Originally posted by BigDoggProblem What would you say to the interpretation that God was testing Abraham to see if he'd do something immoral on command? That what God really wanted was for Abraham to defy the order?
What about the part where this alleged god is omniscient and therefore knew in advance old Abe would have gone through with it, therefore the whole stupid test was not needed by this alleged god in the first place.
Originally posted by sonhouse What about the part where this alleged god is omniscient and therefore knew in advance old Abe would have gone through with it, therefore the whole stupid test was not needed by this alleged god in the first place.
Abraham wasn't omniscient. Perhaps he needed to learn a lesson. (Perhaps he ain't the only one. 😕)
Originally posted by sonhouse Yeah, just look at how spiritual people like old Abe was, ready to plunge a knife into his own son to satisfy his lord. Or all those people your gracious god supposedly killed during the non-existent world wide flood. Yessir, a great religion you have there, jealous god and all.
Abraham proved that he believed God and had faith in Him. That faith was counted to him as righteousness.
Originally posted by RJHinds Abraham proved that he believed God and had faith in Him. That faith was counted to him as righteousness.
HalleluYaHshua !!! Praies the LORD!
Right, like a frigging GOD, omniscient, would have already known Abe to be a trusty dude and didn't need to prove anything, to Abe, who already know he was trusty to a god, or the god, who also would have known well in advance exactly what Abe was thinking.
So it just goes to show how the whole thing was written by humans with no god needed, just another stupid story made up by men trying to add to the control of the believers.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblem Abraham wasn't omniscient. Perhaps he needed to learn a lesson. (Perhaps he ain't the only one. 😕)
Well, that's an interesting twist that merits some thought. Are you saying that Abraham wasn't tested so that god could figure out if Abraham's faith was good, but that it was all for Abraham's benefit?
You suggested above that god wanted to test if Abraham would do something immoral on command, but god would already know how Abraham would respond, so that doesn't make sense, as sonhouse pointed out.
But this is a subtly different point you're making. Care to expand on it?
Originally posted by C Hess Well, that's an interesting twist that merits some thought. Are you saying that Abraham wasn't tested so that god could figure out if Abraham's faith was good, but that it was all for Abraham's benefit?
You suggested above that god wanted to test if Abraham would do something immoral on command, but god would already know how Abraham would respond, ...[text shortened]... nhouse pointed out.
But this is a subtly different point you're making. Care to expand on it?
The test was obviously for the benefit of Isaac and those that follow in the faith.