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Why religion doesn't work, And why Science and Religion are incompatible.
Or why you shouldn't believe anything based on faith
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/05/religious_exemptions_from_medical_care_faith_healing_kills_children.html
.... These exemptions have produced the expected result: Hundreds of children have gotten sick and died because their parents resorted to faith rather than medicine. I cover this ongoing tragedy, one of the most serious conflicts between rationality and superstition, in my new book, Faith vs. Fact: Why Science and Religion Are Incompatible, and you can read more in Caroline Fraser’s God’s Perfect Child: Living and Dying in the Christian Science Church and Paul Offit’s Bad Faith. These children either have no choice in their treatment or are not mature enough to make informed decisions. Some, like children of Jehovah’s Witnesses who die from refusing blood transfusions, are even extolled as “Youths who put God first.” All of them are martyrs to their parents’ religion.
Most of these deaths are needless. A 1998 medical study analyzed cases of child mortality due to faith-based medical neglect and found that of the 172 deceased, 140 had conditions that would have been curable with a probability of greater than 90 percent, while another 18 would have been cured with a probability between 50 and 90 percent. All but three of the children would have been helped by real medical care. ....
21 May 15
Originally posted by googlefudgeI can't wait for the "YEAH BUTs"
Why religion doesn't work, And why Science and Religion are incompatible.
Or why you shouldn't believe anything based on faith
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/05/religious_exemptions_from_medical_care_faith_healing_kills_children.html
.... These exemptions have produced the expected result: H ...[text shortened]... percent. All but three of the children would have been helped by real medical care. ....
21 May 15
Originally posted by googlefudgeThat is not faith. Get real.
Why religion doesn't work, And why Science and Religion are incompatible.
Or why you shouldn't believe anything based on faith
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/05/religious_exemptions_from_medical_care_faith_healing_kills_children.html
.... These exemptions have produced the expected result: H ...[text shortened]... percent. All but three of the children would have been helped by real medical care. ....
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21 May 15
Originally posted by SuzianneIt's not your faith perhaps, but you don't have any sort of monopoly on the topic.
That is not faith. Get real.
And we are talking about hundreds of kids being killed by their parents [guardians].
How much more real would you have us get?
22 May 15
Originally posted by googlefudgeThis concerns cult groups. So this is a very limited study and about anything can be alleged by his standards.
Why religion doesn't work, And why Science and Religion are incompatible.
Or why you shouldn't believe anything based on faith
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/05/religious_exemptions_from_medical_care_faith_healing_kills_children.html
.... These exemptions have produced the expected result: H ...[text shortened]... percent. All but three of the children would have been helped by real medical care. ....
22 May 15
Originally posted by googlefudgeBooks like that one are so gratuitously anti-religion that they are predictable to the point of being boring reads.
Why religion doesn't work, And why Science and Religion are incompatible.
Or why you shouldn't believe anything based on faith
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/05/religious_exemptions_from_medical_care_faith_healing_kills_children.html
.... These exemptions have produced the expected result: H ...[text shortened]... percent. All but three of the children would have been helped by real medical care. ....
Has anyone wondered if we should be saving so many humans from so many diseases? Our population has shot up to 7 billion and rising like mad. Perhaps there's plenty of us on the planet already, and we should even it out at this point?
22 May 15
Originally posted by googlefudgeThose parents are 'tempting God'. That's not faith.
It's not your faith perhaps, but you don't have any sort of monopoly on the topic.
And we are talking about hundreds of kids being killed by their parents [guardians].
How much more real would you have us get?
22 May 15
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemOddly enough better medical care results in people having fewer children and lower population growth.
Has anyone wondered if we should be saving so many humans from so many diseases? Our population has shot up to 7 billion and rising like mad. Perhaps there's plenty of us on the planet already, and we should even it out at this point?
22 May 15
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Originally posted by twhiteheadSo basically there is a small downward ramp at the top of this:
Oddly enough better medical care results in people having fewer children and lower population growth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population#/media/File: Population_curve.svg
You'll need to remove the space between the colon and the "P" for the link to work.
22 May 15
Originally posted by googlefudgeYou are not well read are you...........
Why religion doesn't work, And why Science and Religion are incompatible.
Or why you shouldn't believe anything based on faith
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/05/religious_exemptions_from_medical_care_faith_healing_kills_children.html
.... These exemptions have produced the expected result: H ...[text shortened]... percent. All but three of the children would have been helped by real medical care. ....
True religion found in the Vedas does not subscribe to superstitious and mundane faith based cures.
True religion depends firstly on a healthy diet which eliminates poisonous meat.
It then depends on a healthy life style.
Then if someone falls ill, true religion depends on the Ayurveda.
Look up Ayurveda and learn something.
Every Western pill manufactured depends on the herbs and plants and minerals from mother earth...........and the scientist just puts it all together.
The pills would not exist accept for the Lords mercy of giving us all mother nature.
The Ayurveda has existed from the beginning of time along with the only true religion on earth.
Your complaints are all about the worlds false religions..................So why do you spend so much of your time studying what false religion is doing and then complaining about it.
It is common sense to know that anything that is false will deliver false actions and beliefs.
True science and true religion are 100% compatible..............however false science and false religion are not.
22 May 15
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemI said 'lower population growth' not 'population shrink'.
So basically there is a small downward ramp at the top of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population#/media/File: Population_curve.svg
You'll need to remove the space between the colon and the "P" for the link to work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population#/media/File:World_population_growth_rate_1950%E2%80%932050.svg
Currently we are still experiencing population growth due to ageing, and some parts of the world with conflict and poor medical facilities like Africa, are still experiencing significant growth.
22 May 15
Originally posted by DasaThis sounds good except Christians believe the Holy Bible is true and that one can have a healty diet that includes meat that is not poisonous. Science even includes meat on the food pyramid chart for a healty diet. 😏
You are not well read are you...........
True religion found in the Vedas does not subscribe to superstitious and mundane faith based cures.
True religion depends firstly on a healthy diet which eliminates poisonous meat.
It then depends on a healthy life style.
Then if someone falls ill, true religion depends on the Ayurveda.
Look up Ayurveda an ...[text shortened]... rue religion are 100% compatible..............however false science and false religion are not.
Originally posted by RJHindsKeeping animals locked in cages so they are ready for execution and then slaughtering them and eating the flesh is not what Holy Men do.
This sounds good except Christians believe the Holy Bible is true and that one can have a healty diet that includes meat that is not poisonous. Science even includes meat on the food pyramid chart for a healty diet. 😏
Persons who follow true religion are passive and gentle and kind ....................therefore meat eating is for the "Malechas" and dogs......(look it up its a Sanskrit word.)
23 May 15
Originally posted by DasaI have no need for sanskit word. I accept the word of God from the Holy Bible.
Keeping animals locked in cages so they are ready for execution and then slaughtering them and eating the flesh is not what Holy Men do.
Persons who follow true religion are passive and gentle and kind ....................therefore meat eating is for the "Malechas" and dogs......(look it up its a Sanskrit word.)