1. Subscribersonhouse
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    04 Sep '08 19:18
    It seems Asian and Latino adolescents and females in particular end up getting more depression symptoms the more church they attend. Why would god make this happen?
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080903134209.htm
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    04 Sep '08 19:29
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    It seems Asian and Latino adolescents and females in particular end up getting more depression symptoms the more church they attend. Why would god make this happen?
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080903134209.htm
    'While the study shows that females and males from certain groups may be more inclined to become depressed, involvement in religious services still had an overall positive affect for many youth in the study. '

    'overall positive affect' : means that for the other major groups the message is positive...
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    05 Sep '08 04:08
    Originally posted by snowinscotland
    'While the study shows that females and males from certain groups may be more inclined to become depressed, involvement in religious services still had an overall positive affect for many youth in the study. '

    'overall positive affect' : means that for the other major groups the message is positive...
    So god thinks its ok to dis two separate groups to benefit the whole?
    That sounds like a familiar argument used by the Nazi's.
    So it maybe proves the idea that a lot of religious people think, that women are second class citizens and Asian women in particular...
    And Latino's are also singled out by god to have this second class status, not good enough in gods light.
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    05 Sep '08 04:11
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    It seems Asian and Latino adolescents and females in particular end up getting more depression symptoms the more church they attend. Why would god make this happen?
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080903134209.htm
    Why wouldn't he?
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    05 Sep '08 05:33
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So god thinks its ok to dis two separate groups to benefit the whole?
    That sounds like a familiar argument used by the Nazi's.
    So it maybe proves the idea that a lot of religious people think, that women are second class citizens and Asian women in particular...
    And Latino's are also singled out by god to have this second class status, not good enough in gods light.
    ...but the inescapable fact is that women are different to men (as a group, not speaking about the individual) so why then should there not be other group differences such as in role, approach, etc.?
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    05 Sep '08 06:26
    Originally posted by snowinscotland
    ...but the inescapable fact is that women are different to men (as a group, not speaking about the individual) so why then should there not be other group differences such as in role, approach, etc.?
    According to christian dogma, god made everything, including women. If so, why did it do it in such a way as to make women second class?
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    05 Sep '08 09:12
    This is what the linked website says:

    "participating in religion at high levels may be detrimental to some teens because of the tensions they face in balancing the conflicting ideals and customs of their religion with those of mainstream culture"

    Here it suggests that it is not the church causing the depression it is the change or adjusting of culture, one which would most probally be experienced just as if they had gone to church all their life then left it.

    Also on that very page they were advertising: "Having Religious Faith Can Speed Recovery From Depression In Older Patients" - "new study on the health effects of religion among sick, older patients has shown that the stronger a person's religious faith, the faster he or she recovered from depression, especially if the patient was disabled or chronically ill, a Duke University researcher reports "

    I think it becomes apparent that being christian or going to church doesn't drive people to being depressed.
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    05 Sep '08 11:52
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    According to christian dogma, god made everything, including women. If so, why did it do it in such a way as to make women second class?
    1. God makes his favourites suffer extra as a test. So don't assume that women (or latinos) are second class.
    2. Differences are unavoidable (or we would all be identical), and thus if you do a study of that nature you will find differences. The question is whether you can blame God for the causes. Is it due to genetic differences, cultural differences, denominational differences etc? Maybe catholic services are more depressing (I suspect that the Latino's had a higher percentage of Catholics).
    3. Would you have the same criticism if they had found that a higher percentage of Chinese suffered backache afterwards (due to pew sizes being unsuitable for example).
    4. How well was the study carried out - never trust statistics outright.
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