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    This man is a scammer & dishonest.

    Before he got his religious career well underway, Russell promoted what he called "miracle wheat," which he sold at sixty dollars per bushel. He claimed it would grow five times as well as regular wheat. In fact, it grew slightly less well than regular wheat, as was established in court when Russell was sued. Later he marketed a fake cancer cure and what he termed a "millennial bean" (which a wag has said probably got that name because it took a thousand years to sprout).
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    17 Dec '13 16:05
    Originally posted by tim88
    This man is a scammer & dishonest.

    Before he got his religious career well underway, Russell promoted what he called "miracle wheat," which he sold at sixty dollars per bushel. He claimed it would grow five times as well as regular wheat. In fact, it grew slightly less well than regular wheat, as was established in court when Russell was sued. Later he mar ...[text shortened]... bean" (which a wag has said probably got that name because it took a thousand years to sprout).
    Don't think your church is immune to this type of person.
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    I assume that you are talking about this guy... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell

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    17 Dec '13 16:431 edit
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    I assume that you are talking about this guy... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell

    ?
    timmy says 'this man is a scammer and dishonest'..........interesting, is the cryptic nature of timmys post trying to tell us that a 150 year old jehovahs witness is back and up to his old tricks.......maybe he's among us!! the deadly duo, galveston and robbie have been quiet, something is afoot!!!
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    Originally posted by tim88
    This man is a scammer & dishonest.

    Before he got his religious career well underway, Russell promoted what he called "miracle wheat," which he sold at sixty dollars per bushel. He claimed it would grow five times as well as regular wheat. In fact, it grew slightly less well than regular wheat, as was established in court when Russell was sued. Later he mar ...[text shortened]... bean" (which a wag has said probably got that name because it took a thousand years to sprout).
    meh haters gonna hate,

    how much profit did Charles Russell personally make from the sale of this wheat, which incidentally won several State Fair grand prizes before it wore itself out. The American government also produced a report which Russell published. Infact Russell did not name nor produce the wheat, nor profit from its sale, so what exactly are you saying that he did? You have not said?

    and for anyone wishing information that has not found its way out of the clutches of haters, i produce the following,

    The facts about “Miracle Wheat” are equally perverted. Brother Russell was interested in anything related to the Scriptural prediction that the desert would blossom as a rose and the earth yield her increase. So, when the public press reported a new and unusual strain of wheat, called “Miracle Wheat” by its original grower, Brother Russell reported this in The Watchtower, along with a government report on it. Some Watchtower readers contacted the grower, who was in no way connected with the Watchtower Society, and purchased some of the wheat. When theirs produced seed they offered it as a contribution to the Society. The original grower sold the seed at $1.25 a pound, so they suggested their contribution be priced at $1.00, and all the money received be given to the Society. The Society made no claim for the wheat on its own knowledge, though it won several State Fair grand prizes before it wore itself out. Brother Russell neither named it nor profited from it; the money went as a donation into Christian missionary work. When others criticized this sale, all who had contributed were told that if they were dissatisfied their money would be returned, and the money was held for a year for this purpose. Not a single person requested it back. The only critics were those who had no real knowledge of the matter, which was purely a donation sale for the benefit of the Society—as open and aboveboard as a church cake sale.
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    17 Dec '13 17:181 edit
    Originally posted by tim88
    This man is a scammer & dishonest.

    Before he got his religious career well underway, Russell promoted what he called "miracle wheat," which he sold at sixty dollars per bushel. He claimed it would grow five times as well as regular wheat. In fact, it grew slightly less well than regular wheat, as was established in court when Russell was sued. Later he mar ...[text shortened]... bean" (which a wag has said probably got that name because it took a thousand years to sprout).
    lets also look at the assertion of marketing a fake cancer cure,

    A CURE FOR SURFACE CANCER

    Cancer troubles are becoming more numerous. We know of no remedy for internal cancers except surgery. Even then a cure is doubtful. We have recently learned of a very effective and simple remedy for cancers which show themselves on the surface of the body. We are informed that a physician, after testing this remedy, paid $1,000 for the information, and that he has established a Cancer Hospital which is doing good work. The recipe has come to us free and we are willing to communicate the formula, but to those only who are troubled with surface cancers and who will write to us directly, stating particulars. No fee will be charged, but in order to protect the sufferers, we require a promise that they will not sell the formula to others, nor receive pay for the use of it, nor communicate the formula to anybody. Any one known to be a sufferer can be informed of the terms on which the prescription is obtainable through us.

    Watch Tower, July 1, 1913:

    please note that Charles Taze Russell himself did not develop this cure; he only reported on what a doctor believed to be a cure for certain kinds of skin cancer, and offered to give that information to free without any charge at all to any who requested it. We are sure that he felt that would be the Christian thing to do. He asked no money for this information. There is certainly nothing wrong with that, but those who seek to find evil can make such appear to be evil when it wasn’t.

    So Timmy, how much did Russell personally make from his marketing campaign to give the formula away for free? If he made nothing and did not develop the cure itself, just what are you saying that he did that makes him a scammer and dishonest according to your words?

    http://ctr.rlbible.com/?p=367
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    Indeed Timmy, isn't it ironic given your opening testimony, i would ask the question, why should anyone believe you?
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    17 Dec '13 23:44
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    lets also look at the assertion of marketing a fake cancer cure,

    A CURE FOR SURFACE CANCER

    Cancer troubles are becoming more numerous. We know of no remedy for internal cancers except surgery. Even then a cure is doubtful. We have recently learned of a very effective and simple remedy for cancers which show themselves on the surface of ...[text shortened]... that makes him a scammer and dishonest according to your words?

    http://ctr.rlbible.com/?p=367
    if i was selling a fake medicine that i knew didn't work i would have also said a doctor gave it to me. does this doctor have a name? also in order to get the medicine didn't you need to buy a membership. Yes
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    17 Dec '13 23:58
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Indeed Timmy, isn't it ironic given your opening testimony, i would ask the question, why should anyone believe you?
    So this is your god?

    the Watch Tower after charles death made him ruler of all the Lord's goods.[10]wikipedia
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    What the hell is this entire thread on about?
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    18 Dec '13 00:24
    Originally posted by Soothfast
    What the hell is this entire thread on about?
    why jahovaswitniss believe that Charles Russell was a prophet
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    18 Dec '13 00:51
    Illegal activities was the rule for Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, too.

    http://questioningmormonism.wordpress.com/2011/08/12/208/
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Illegal activities was the rule for Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, too.

    http://questioningmormonism.wordpress.com/2011/08/12/208/
    wait a minute who's Joseph Smith.
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    18 Dec '13 16:36
    Originally posted by tim88
    why jahovaswitniss believe that Charles Russell was a prophet
    I see reality for you is quite optional, spelling also , Jehovahs Witnesses do not believe that Charles Russell was a prophet, this is the third untruth that you have written.
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    18 Dec '13 16:39
    Originally posted by tim88
    if i was selling a fake medicine that i knew didn't work i would have also said a doctor gave it to me. does this doctor have a name? also in order to get the medicine didn't you need to buy a membership. Yes
    he did not sell and medicine to anyone, if you read the references that were provided, you will see that he gave away a formula for free, now I know reality for you is quite optional, but as an exercise see if you can distinguish between giving something away for free and selling it, your entire posts concerning the man are lies and amount to nothing but slander, but if its the best you can do then its the best you can do.
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