Originally posted by robbie carrobie I know, its a dirty word for some. Great thread idea though.
Complements to Whodey for the thread idea.
Has anyone ever read the 'Wisdom of Sirach'. It forms part of the Apocrypha and was in fact included in the Septuagint, the Bible which Paul and the Apostles used extensively when preaching to the Greeks. Actually it is also in the 1611 KJV.
This book is similar to Proverbs but goes into a lot of detail and advises about personal living. It is interesting to read and it is alleged that several New Testament writers have quoted from this book.
Why it was omitted from the New KJV I dont know know.
Originally posted by apathist God Will Kill Everyone
"I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD. "I will sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and the fish in the sea will die. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble, along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD. "I will crush Judah and Jerusalem with my fist and de ...[text shortened]... They no longer ask for the LORD's guidance or seek my blessings." (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
This is the fate of the wicked that do not worship the LORD God. But what about those made righteous through faith?
Originally posted by whodey So for the sake of argument let's say you are right and it was an angel FROM God. Are you not still wrestling with his messenger?
yes, but was not Israel blessed at the end of the struggle? In fact is it not true that he would not give up until he received a blessing?
Originally posted by Rajk999 Both Septuagint and 1611 KJV are Bibles.
Can you provide some authentic references which help explain your position that (as I'm understanding you), extra biblical (current accepted editions and translations) text should be considered and spirit inspired?