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In the public domain in countries like the U.S. and the U.K. the word "woke" has been appropriated and, in most cases, shorn of specific meaning, and it is being attached to anything in the political and social domain that the user of the word dislikes or opposes.
Merriam-Webster defines "woke" as "...aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues especially issues of racial and social justice."
If we take THIS definition rather than the vaguely-defined definition that is being wielded in "culture wars" like the ones going on in the U.S. at the moment [often in a demagogic way and on both ends of the political spectrum]...
...to what extent do "woke values" and various Christian values overlap?
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28 Mar 23
@fmf saidI wonder which woke wokie wrote that one? Anyone else been noticing that with them lately?
In the public domain in countries like the U.S. and the U.K. the word "woke" has been appropriated and, in most cases, shorn of specific meaning, and it is being attached to anything in the political and social domain that the user of the word dislikes or opposes.
Merriam-Webster defines "woke" as [b]"...aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues es ...[text shortened]... e political spectrum]...
...to what extent do "woke values" and various Christian values overlap?
You’re welcome to jump over to my thread and help figure that one out if you like.
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28 Mar 23
@fmf saidI think there are loads of examples of this, some of which are linked to my proposed ideas regarding the end of the subscription model” in the other thread.
In the public domain in countries like the U.S. and the U.K. the word "woke" has been appropriated and, in most cases, shorn of specific meaning, and it is being attached to anything in the political and social domain that the user of the word dislikes or opposes.
Merriam-Webster defines "woke" as [b]"...aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues es ...[text shortened]... e political spectrum]...
...to what extent do "woke values" and various Christian values overlap?
Examples:
- homosexuality
- mixed race marriages
- women leaders, in church specifically
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28 Mar 23
@divegeester saidYou also my friend.
I think there are loads of examples of this, some of which are linked to my proposed ideas regarding the end of the subscription model” in the other thread.
Examples:
- homosexuality
- mixed race marriages
- women leaders, in church specifically
28 Mar 23
@divegeester saidThe question is: to what extent do "woke values" and various Christian values overlap?
Examples:
- homosexuality
- mixed race marriages
- women leaders, in church specifically
I don't see how your examples illustrate an overlap.
@mike69 saidThis forum? Or this question?
No thanks, I find this one worse.
I think your thread on the Deabtes Forum is about U.S. politics.
This question is about religious / moral values and so belongs here on the Spirituality Forum.
If you want to talk politics on the other forum, that is your prerogative. If you want to talk about Christian values, then this is the place.
@divegeester saidFor most Christians ~ and certainly according to the Bible, as far as I am aware ~ homosexual acts are "sinful". But, without approving of gay sexual orientation, can't Christians - in the spirit of "love your neighbour" - be against systematic discrimination against homosexuals? That would be an overlap, would it not?
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@fmf saidBeing anti the sin, not anti the sinner should be the way forward in that scenario imo.
For most Christians ~ and certainly according to the Bible, as far as I am aware ~ homosexual acts are "sinful". But, without approving of gay sexual orientation, can't Christians - in the spirit of "love your neighbour" - be against systematic discrimination against homosexuals? That would be an overlap, would it not?
@divegeester saidI would say that the degree to which some advocates of societal acceptance of "sinful" behaviours have been so vehement and sanctimonious - and essentially impatient - has been met with exasperated pushback these last ten or so years.
Being anti the sin, not anti the sinner should be the way forward in that scenario imo.
Both left and right are devouring themselves and each other with stances rooted in identity politics [and exploiting feelings of grievance, on both sides of the aisle].
But can some overlap not be found in Christian values regarding tolerance, compassion, and forgiveness?