17 May 21
@fmf saidWords are small and deeds are great in all aspects of human existence. Its more pronounced in Christianity where words are nothing, and deeds are everything.
Is this, in fact, clearly true in almost all aspects of life EXCEPT for in the Once-Saved-Always-Saved version of Christian living?
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17 May 21
@vivify saidIn which of the 27 New Testament books is there instructions about what Christians should do with prisoners of war? I didn't see anything on that.
Like enslaving prisoners of war?
17 May 21
@rajk999 saidExodus 21:20-21
Yes. Enslaving POWs is sanctioned by God. However its not the type of cruel, evil and depraved slavery you Americans practiced.
New International Version
20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
The Bible's version of slavery, which you defend, is also cruel.
17 May 21
@vivify saidIf the slave does something deserving a good whooping he gets it. Its not cruelty is fair punishment.
Exodus 21:20-21
New International Version
20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
The Bible's version of slavery, which you defend, is also cruel.
Your stupid way of thinking is what the problem is. A man who commits a crime in your American system, can either go to jail and live off taxpayers money and live well, with no punishment, or beat the system with a good lawyer and get of scotch free, back on the streets to rape, rob of kill again. You people are damn fools over there. Go fix that and get your house in order, instead of criticizing the bible.
17 May 21
@rajk999 saidIt was pointed out to you, in the other thread, that the Bible makes no mention of whether a slave's beating is deserved. (In fact, the Bible does not even mention any motivation whatsoever for said beating.)
If the slave does something deserving a good whooping he gets it. Its not cruelty is fair punishment.
You were fine with that.
You continue to double down on an idiotic, morally bankrupt, position.
17 May 21
@bigdoggproblem saidOh. I think I owe you an apology. Maybe I gave you the impression i would change my beliefs if you opposed them. My apologies. Im fine with what the bible says.
It was pointed out to you, in the other thread, that the Bible makes no mention of whether a slave's beating is deserved. (In fact, the Bible does not even mention any motivation whatsoever for said beating.)
You were fine with that.
You continue to double down on an idiotic, morally bankrupt, position.
Your stupid way of thinking is what the problem is. A man who commits a crime in your American system, can either go to jail and live off taxpayers money and live well, with no punishment, or beat the system with a good lawyer and get of scotch free, back on the streets to rape, rob of kill again. You people are damn fools over there. Go fix that and get your house in order, instead of criticizing the bible.
17 May 21
@rajk999 saidThe 'American system' thing is just a red herring, and a desperate one at that.
Oh. I think I owe you an apology. Maybe I gave you the impression i would change my beliefs if you opposed them. My apologies. Im fine with what the bible says.
Your stupid way of thinking is what the problem is. A man who commits a crime in your American system, can either go to jail and live off taxpayers money and live well, with no punishment, or beat the system wit ...[text shortened]... re damn fools over there. Go fix that and get your house in order, instead of criticizing the bible.
Nothing can distract from your shattered credibility. All your past and future condescending lectures to other christians on the supposed importance of doing good works, will ring laughably hollow.
17 May 21
@bigdoggproblem saidWell, well, I think I owe you another apology. Maybe I gave you the impression i care about what others think. My apologies. Im fine with what the bible says.
The 'American system' thing is just a red herring, and a desperate one at that.
Nothing can distract from your shattered credibility. All your past and future condescending lectures to other christians on the supposed importance of doing good works, will ring laughably hollow.
As for the American system thing, it is not any red anything. Your broughtupsy [for want of a better word], is the reason why you are now here defending wrong doing. Your system has eliminated corporal punishment and demonised it. And you now believe that it putting criminals in jail where they live well on taxpayers money, stands on high moral ground. The truth is that your system breeds evil rather than eliminate it from society. The bible has good guidelines for punishing people for the wrong they have committed. You of course choose to condemn it. And that is fine too.
18 May 21
@bigdoggproblem saidThe OP doesn't suggest that "good" words are not helpful or that they are unnecessary; the OP is suggesting that words not harnessed to deeds are "small".
No, it's not true.
Words represent ideas. Take those away, and one cannot even tell which deeds are good or bad, helpful or harmful.