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You don't need to pound the pulpit

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@fmf said
No, that's not so. I "struggle" with Revelation in much the same way as I "struggle" with QAnon. So, do you not count the Book of Revelation as part of Jesus' teaching? The seven words [and dash] you posted above sidestepped the question.
So, do you not count the Book of Revelation as part of Jesus' teaching?

The short answer is "Yes"

I would point out however that I am not a bible scholar, so if you have questions or comments about Revelation (and I'm sure you do) I'm not the one to ask.


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@mchill said
So, do you not count the Book of Revelation as part of Jesus' teaching?

The short answer is "Yes"

I would point out however that I am not a bible scholar, so if you have questions or comments about Revelation (and I'm sure you do) I'm not the one to ask.
The words of yours that prompted my question about Revelation were:

"Jesus taught the masses in a non - confrontational way, using a combination of plain language and parables, and let them decide the issue for themselves."


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Do you believe in the eternal suffering teaching?

At the risk of sounding evasive, I can't answer your question. The words of the book of Revelation are full of allegory, and parables that bible scholars are still trying to decipher today. I'm not the one to ask about this.


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The words of the book of Revelation are full of allegory, and parables that bible scholars are still trying to decipher today.
Jesus taught the masses using a combination of plain language and parables, and let them decide the issue for themselves...

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You didn't say this?

I beg to differ.

You also evaded my point.

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@fmf said
Do you not count the Book of Revelation as being part of Jesus' teaching?
I don't.

The Book of Revelation was written after Jesus' death.

The text is written as by an eye witness. It speaks OF Jesus, it concerns some of his actions at the end of days, near his return to Earth, but I'm pretty sure that the Book of Revelation was not in any of his teachings.

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You insisted that I might have a need to "bang the pulpit", and I asked you if Jesus had a need to "bang the pulpit" about the end of those found wanting at Judgement.

He did not, and so I do not. He found it easier and more effective to merely talk with people and influence them in other ways in the way they should go. He wasn't about scare tactics and neither am I.

This was my point, not who started with the phrase "bang the pulpit".

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@fmf said
Jesus taught the masses using a combination of plain language and parables, and let them decide the issue for themselves...
Right-o.

He felt no need to "bang the pulpit" about it either.

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@suzianne said
The text is written as by an eye witness. It speaks OF Jesus, it concerns some of his actions at the end of days, near his return to Earth, but I'm pretty sure that the Book of Revelation was not in any of his teachings.
Is the book in question not said to be the "Revelation" of Jesus communicated to someone-or-other who claimed he was being instructed by Jesus? If it's not Jesus' teaching, is the content the teaching of the someone-or-other who is said to have written it?

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@divegeester

Please ask again I have no need to evade or deflect.


EXCELLENT!

Is it possible that there could be a genuine practical local church today continuing what was started in "the church in Jerusalem" or is it impossible for Christians to church today in any regard except in division, as a denomination?

Yes - it could be possible.
No - it is impossible

You have no need to evade or deflect.

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@divegeester
Please ask again I have no need to evade or deflect.


EXCELLENT!

Is it possible that there could be a genuine practical local church today continuing what was started in "the church in Jerusalem" or is it impossible for Christians to church today in any regard except in division, as a denomination?

Yes - it could be possible.
No - it is impossible

You have no need to evade or deflect.
NO, that is impossible.