You don't need to pound the pulpit

@sonship said

Is it possible that there could be a genuine practical local church today continuing what was started in "the church in Jerusalem" or is it impossible for Christians to church today in any regard except in division, as a denomination?

Your local church is not a good match for the early church.
Eg someone like me will not be allowed in Witness Lees local church, but I would be welcomed in one of the the early churches.

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Quite a bit of the teachings of Jesus included what will transpire long after his death and resurrection. The judgment day scenario in Matt 25 where the goats are condemned for failure to do good works. Its all over the teachings of Christ. After resurrection and just prior to the ascension Jesus said

Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.(Mark 16:14-20 KJV)

Eternal life and damnation.... two essential elements of the entire bible teaching

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As a Christian, surely you are aware of the doctrine of eternal suffering because your OP calls for less pulpit bashing about it.


This is incorrect, my OP calls for a softer approach in they way one introduces non believers to the message of Christ, and the sacrifice he made on our behalf, I didn't bring up the book of Revelation once in my OP.

As for being evasive about answering questions about the book of Revelation, I have good reason to do so. As I said before, bible scholars have studied this book for centuries and are still struggling to uncover it's true meaning, so a layman like me can hardly be expected to answer questions about it.

@Rajk999

Your local church is not a good match for the early church.

That is NOT the question I put to DIvegeester.

My question to him is - Is It POSSIBLE (even if it is not the church in Dallas or the church in Sidney).

Go encourage him to answer.

And as for you ???? I have seen not much to give the impression you get along with ANYONE except you / yourself.

Nobody comes up to your standard except Rajk999.

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Utter dishonesty?

What was I being dishonest about? There are multiple theory's scholars give about what Revelation really tells us, and you expect me to give you the final word on it? That's pretty unrealistic, don't you think?

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Please go back and read my original post. Did I once bring up damnation or eternal torture? No. You are the one who seems desperate to keep that alive.