Originally posted by FetchmyjunkIt's been debated to death here.
So tell me what does my ancient Hebrew folklore and mythology tell me about slavery and sexism. If you have something to say say it. Stop beating about the bush. Go on an show everyone how well you actually understand the scriptures.
Originally posted by FMFSuppose you believed there was no correct answer to 1+1. Yet you keep on asking me what is the answer to 1+1. No matter what I say you will say I have not addressed the question. Even if I said the answer was 2 you will claim that I was talking about something else.
You haven't addressed the question at all. You simply talked about something else. And then you started claiming you'd already answered it.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkThis is just more dodging.
Suppose you believed there was no correct answer to 1+1. Yet you keep on asking me what is the answer to 1+1. No matter what I say you will say I have not addressed the question. Even if I said the answer was 2 you will claim that I was talking about something else.
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Originally posted by FetchmyjunkYou've run your idea of a "universal moral standard" past me and it's nonsensical. What more can I say in a one on one conversation with you? I am assuming you're trying your best to present credible notions of justice and morality but, to my way of thinking, much of what you say seems ludicrous and unable to withstand scrutiny. Others will decide for themselves what they make of what you've said. I speak for myself only.
If it doesn't make moral sense to you then it doesn't exist? Since when are you the universal authority on what makes moral sense and what doesn't if there is no universal moral standard?
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkIf you think your God figure's moral laws pertaining to slaves and slavery, for example, are not an example of how morality "changes with the times, what is good today may be evil tomorrow and what is evil today may be good tomorrow" [your words, not mine], then fair enough. I'll add it to the list of bizarre notions you're trying out on me.
And yet you claim everyone else is dodging your questions.
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Originally posted by FetchmyjunkIf your "perfect justice" has no relevance whatsoever to "justice", or there is absolutely nothing from it that can be applied, emulated, replicated, or lessons of principle from it that can be learned, then why on earth are you attaching the words "justice" and "perfect" to it? I know full well why you have been dodging the question. If we were to seek to emulate the "perfect justice" you propagate, we would create the most depraved system of justice imaginable.
What exactly am I dodging? A question that has no correct answer?
Originally posted by FMFWhen you say that my idea of a 'universal moral standard is nonsensical, you are implying that there is a universal moral standard that makes sense. If there wasn't one how would you know that mine doesn't make sense? If there wasn't one, my idea would be just as credible as yours. So take your pick.
You've run your idea of a "universal moral standard" past me and it's nonsensical. What more can I say in a one on one conversation with you? I am assuming you're trying your best to present credible notions of justice and morality but, to my way of thinking, much of what you say seems ludicrous and unable to withstand scrutiny. Others will decide for themselves what they make of what you've said. I speak for myself only.
Originally posted by FMFWhere does the Bible say that slavery is good?
If you think your God figure's moral laws pertaining to slaves and slavery, for example, are not an example of how morality "changes with the times, what is good today may be evil tomorrow and what is evil today may be good tomorrow" [your words, not mine], then fair enough. I'll add it to the list of bizarre notions you're trying out on me.