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Originally posted by FMF
Why do you keep pretending that there is a universally correct standard of what equates 'evil' when there isn't?
How do you know there isn't?


Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Who decides whether my answer is correct? You? Based on what?
You haven't addressed the question at all. You simply talked about something else. And then you started claiming you'd already answered it.


Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
How do you know there isn't?
No one has pointed to one that exists or demonstrated that it makes any morel sense.


Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So tell me what does my ancient Hebrew folklore and mythology tell me about slavery and sexism. If you have something to say say it. Stop beating about the bush. Go on an show everyone how well you actually understand the scriptures.
It's been debated to death here.

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Originally posted by FMF
You haven't addressed the question at all. You simply talked about something else. And then you started claiming you'd already answered it.
Suppose you believed there was no correct answer to 1+1. Yet you keep on asking me what is the answer to 1+1. No matter what I say you will say I have not addressed the question. Even if I said the answer was 2 you will claim that I was talking about something else.


Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Suppose you believed there was no correct answer to 1+1. Yet you keep on asking me what is the answer to 1+1. No matter what I say you will say I have not addressed the question. Even if I said the answer was 2 you will claim that I was talking about something else.
This is just more dodging.

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Originally posted by FMF
No one has pointed to one that exists or demonstrated that it makes any morel sense.
If it doesn't make moral sense to you then it doesn't exist? Since when are you the universal authority on what makes moral sense and what doesn't if there is no universal moral standard?

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Originally posted by FMF
This is just more dodging.
What exactly am I dodging? A question that has no correct answer?

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Originally posted by FMF
It's been debated to death here.
And yet you claim everyone else is dodging your questions.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If it doesn't make moral sense to you then it doesn't exist? Since when are you the universal authority on what makes moral sense and what doesn't if there is no universal moral standard?
You've run your idea of a "universal moral standard" past me and it's nonsensical. What more can I say in a one on one conversation with you? I am assuming you're trying your best to present credible notions of justice and morality but, to my way of thinking, much of what you say seems ludicrous and unable to withstand scrutiny. Others will decide for themselves what they make of what you've said. I speak for myself only.


Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
And yet you claim everyone else is dodging your questions.
If you think your God figure's moral laws pertaining to slaves and slavery, for example, are not an example of how morality "changes with the times, what is good today may be evil tomorrow and what is evil today may be good tomorrow" [your words, not mine], then fair enough. I'll add it to the list of bizarre notions you're trying out on me.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
What exactly am I dodging? A question that has no correct answer?
If your "perfect justice" has no relevance whatsoever to "justice", or there is absolutely nothing from it that can be applied, emulated, replicated, or lessons of principle from it that can be learned, then why on earth are you attaching the words "justice" and "perfect" to it? I know full well why you have been dodging the question. If we were to seek to emulate the "perfect justice" you propagate, we would create the most depraved system of justice imaginable.


FMF: No one has pointed to one that exists or demonstrated that it makes any morel sense.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If it doesn't make moral sense to you then it doesn't exist?
Not exactly. [1] what you describe doesn't exist, AND [2] it doesn't make moral sense anyway.

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Originally posted by FMF
You've run your idea of a "universal moral standard" past me and it's nonsensical. What more can I say in a one on one conversation with you? I am assuming you're trying your best to present credible notions of justice and morality but, to my way of thinking, much of what you say seems ludicrous and unable to withstand scrutiny. Others will decide for themselves what they make of what you've said. I speak for myself only.
When you say that my idea of a 'universal moral standard is nonsensical, you are implying that there is a universal moral standard that makes sense. If there wasn't one how would you know that mine doesn't make sense? If there wasn't one, my idea would be just as credible as yours. So take your pick.

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Originally posted by FMF
If you think your God figure's moral laws pertaining to slaves and slavery, for example, are not an example of how morality "changes with the times, what is good today may be evil tomorrow and what is evil today may be good tomorrow" [your words, not mine], then fair enough. I'll add it to the list of bizarre notions you're trying out on me.
Where does the Bible say that slavery is good?