" But I will tell show you whom you should fear, fear Him who after killing, has authority to cast into Gehenna; yes, I tell you, fear this One. " (Luke 12:5)
1.) Is this a saying of Jesus about where fear should be placed ?
2.) Does the teaching teach that God can no nothing more to a man than other men can do ?
3.) Does the teaching convey that after a man had done his worst to another man, God has the power and authority to do even more?
4.) Does the teaching teach that physical death -
"killing" puts a man forever beyond the possibility of him being further harmed by God, should God desire to harm?
5.) Does the phrase "after killing" convey God's punishment can only be carried out on the physically living?
6.) Does the teaching prove that only by keeping a man from being killed can God punish him ?
7.) Does the burden of Jesus seem to be that we love the teaching or just that we believe the teaching ?
The issue is whether or not you can make a coherent moral case for your torturer god ideology, sonship, not whether you can sift through mythological texts and find words and sentences here and there.
What moral lessons about the application of justice can human beings learn based on what you tout as being the "perfect morality" and from seeking to emulate your mythologized Jesus character when it comes to burning non-believers?
When, as you claim, Jesus "flows out" of Christians, which bit derives its "flow" from the burning-people-for-their-lack-of-belief aspect of your far-fetched moral universe?
Stop trying to make an 'it-says-here' regurgitation-of-text type case, and make - instead - a moral case that isn't nonsensical.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeyou're either for or against God
Quick question, why would God 'almighty, just and fair' (not to mention all loving and wise) only put 2 outcomes on the divine table?
1. Saved
2. Eternal suffering.
Originally posted by @rajk999I could have posted all the content here - would that have been better? 😛 🙄
Yeah .. when all else fails post a link to 199 pages of nonsensical church mumbo jumbo., and then say "well if you dont want to read it thats your fault .. Im done " ...Lol 😀.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeIf He gave you one option, eternal suffering, you may have had a valid point.
Quick question, why would God 'almighty, just and fair' (not to mention all loving and wise) only put 2 outcomes on the divine table?
1. Saved
2. Eternal suffering.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI was thinking the same. FMF "as clever as he is" sometimes sounds..........foolish.
What a silly question. Would he ask what it was if he had come across it? Gee your poor students. 😛