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‘Eternal suffering’ is nonsensical

‘Eternal suffering’ is nonsensical

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" But I will tell show you whom you should fear, fear Him who after killing, has authority to cast into Gehenna; yes, I tell you, fear this One. " (Luke 12:5)


1.) Is this a saying of Jesus about where fear should be placed ?

2.) Does the teaching teach that God can no nothing more to a man than other men can do ?

3.) Does the teaching convey that after a man had done his worst to another man, God has the power and authority to do even more?

4.) Does the teaching teach that physical death -
"killing" puts a man forever beyond the possibility of him being further harmed by God, should God desire to harm?

5.) Does the phrase "after killing" convey God's punishment can only be carried out on the physically living?

6.) Does the teaching prove that only by keeping a man from being killed can God punish him ?

7.) Does the burden of Jesus seem to be that we love the teaching or just that we believe the teaching ?

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Read the book, man.

I don't know how to make it more clear than that.

Hint: It's not all just symbolism. It's not just some horror story told to keep the wayward in line.

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The issue is whether or not you can make a coherent moral case for your torturer god ideology, sonship, not whether you can sift through mythological texts and find words and sentences here and there.

What moral lessons about the application of justice can human beings learn based on what you tout as being the "perfect morality" and from seeking to emulate your mythologized Jesus character when it comes to burning non-believers?

When, as you claim, Jesus "flows out" of Christians, which bit derives its "flow" from the burning-people-for-their-lack-of-belief aspect of your far-fetched moral universe?

Stop trying to make an 'it-says-here' regurgitation-of-text type case, and make - instead - a moral case that isn't nonsensical.


Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Quick question, why would God 'almighty, just and fair' (not to mention all loving and wise) only put 2 outcomes on the divine table?

1. Saved
2. Eternal suffering.
you're either for or against God

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Originally posted by @rajk999
Yeah .. when all else fails post a link to 199 pages of nonsensical church mumbo jumbo., and then say "well if you dont want to read it thats your fault .. Im done " ...Lol 😀.
I could have posted all the content here - would that have been better? 😛 🙄


Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Quick question, why would God 'almighty, just and fair' (not to mention all loving and wise) only put 2 outcomes on the divine table?

1. Saved
2. Eternal suffering.
If He gave you one option, eternal suffering, you may have had a valid point.


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I see. Now I'm like the Nazis. You know that it isn't even closely even true but if it makes you feel better blaming me for God's eternal judgment then it must be okay - We're not going to get anywhere like this.


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Surely I have thought of it being symbolic - but then again, the Bible is also specific, no short cuts.


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I actually thought it was amazing - Loved it - wish there was more to read!


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That looks interesting. I do like sci-fi, and Natalie when she's not in Star Wars.


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What Annihilation?


Originally posted by @nicksten about the copious text at the link he gave
I actually thought it was amazing - Loved it - wish there was more to read!
Does it confirm what you already believe?

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Originally posted by @nicksten
What Annihilation?
It's a long-standing Christian strand of theology on the question of what happens to non-believers (and presumably failed believers) at death. Have you never come across it?


Originally posted by @fmf
It's a long-standing Christian strand of theology on the question of what happens to non-believers (and presumably failed believers) at death. Have you never come across it?
What a silly question. Would he ask what it was if he had come across it? Gee your poor students. 😛


Originally posted by @dj2becker
What a silly question. Would he ask what it was if he had come across it? Gee your poor students. 😛
I was thinking the same. FMF "as clever as he is" sometimes sounds..........foolish.

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