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    Originally posted by darvlay
    Get to the names already!
    I like where he said... "blah blah blah blah blah blah". That's a loose translation.

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    http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pdf/071213/mitchell_report.pdf
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    13 Dec '07 19:441 edit
    Looking at the report itself, if you skip to appendix D you'll find scanned images of personal checks and money orders for steriods and HGH. The names are on the images. There are quite a few more names than those supposedly, but I don't want to wade through almost 500 pages looking for them.
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    Originally posted by darvlay
    http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pdf/071213/mitchell_report.pdf
    cut and paste is my friend... find the list and SHAME THEM!

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    what a great report!
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    Originally posted by poundlee
    what a great report!
    You read all 400 pages already?

    Paste some names!

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    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    cut and paste is my friend... find the list and SHAME THEM!

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    You think there's a list I can cut and paste? This ain't no mickey mouse report, dude.

    Lots of names and testimonies starting on pg. 127 and continuing for about 130 pages, mostly those supplied by BALCO, Radomski and McNamee, including:

    Roger Clemens
    Andy Pettitte
    Mo Vaughn
    Kevin Brown
    Lenny Dykstra
    Benito Santiago
    Gary Sheffield
    Brain Roberts
    Miguel Tejada
    David Segui
    Todd Hundley
    Hal Morris
    Rondell White
    Chuck knoblauch
    Eric Gagne
    Paul Lo Duca
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    Originally posted by poundlee
    what a great report!
    No doubt.

    I look forward to reading it in more detail later.
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    No Jason Varitek or Albert Pujols.
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    Originally posted by darvlay
    No Jason Varitek or Albert Pujols.
    If I was Veritek I'd SUE every radio station and web site that falsely listed him.

    They listed him an hour ago from another source, but the local guy said he hasn't see his name anywhere.

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    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    If I was Veritek I'd SUE every radio station and web site that falsely listed him.

    They listed him an hour ago from another source, but the local guy said he hasn't see his name anywhere.

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    i did not see varitek or puljos' name in the report but they were continuously shown on CNBC
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    Excerpt from Report:

    Roger Clemens
    Roger Clemens is a pitcher who, from 1984 to 2007, played for four teams in
    Major League Baseball, the Boston Red Sox (13 seasons), Toronto Blue Jays (2 seasons),
    New York Yankees (6 seasons), and Houston Astros (3 seasons). He has won more than
    350 games, seven Cy Young Awards, and was the American League Most Valuable Player in
    1986. He was named to All-Star teams eleven times.
    During the Radomski investigation, federal law enforcement officials identified
    Brian McNamee as one of Radomski’s customers and a possible sub-distributor. McNamee,
    through his attorney, entered into a written agreement with the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the
    Northern District of California. The agreement provides that McNamee will cooperate with the
    U.S. Attorney’s Office. No truthful statements can be used against McNamee in any federal
    prosecution by that Office; if, however, he should be untruthful in any statements made pursuant
    to that agreement, he may be charged with criminal violations, including making false
    statements, which is a felony.
    As part of his cooperation with the U.S. Attorney’s Office, and at its request,
    McNamee agreed to three interviews by me and my staff, one in person and two by telephone.
    McNamee’s personal lawyer participated in the interviews. Also participating were federal
    prosecutors and agents from the F.B.I. and the Internal Revenue Service. On each occasion,
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    McNamee was advised that he could face criminal charges if he made any false statements
    during these interviews, which were deemed by the prosecutors to be subject to his written
    agreement with the U.S. Attorney’s Office.
    McNamee attended St. John’s University in New York from 1985 to 1989,
    majoring in athletic administration. At St. John’s, he played baseball. From 1990 to May 1993,
    he was a New York City police officer.
    In 1993, McNamee met Tim McCleary, the assistant general manager of the
    New York Yankees, who also had attended St. John’s. McCleary hired McNamee as a bullpen
    catcher and batting practice pitcher for the New York Yankees. In 1995, McNamee was released
    from his duties after Joe Torre was named the new Yankees manager. From 1995 to 1998,
    McNamee trained “Olympic caliber athletes” outside of baseball.
    In 1995, McCleary was hired as the assistant general manager for the Toronto
    Blue Jays. In 1998, that club hired McNamee as its strength and conditioning coach, and he
    served in that position from 1998 to 2000.
    Roger Clemens signed with Toronto in 1997, after spending the first thirteen
    years of his career with the Red Sox. After McNamee began working for the Blue Jays in 1998,
    he and Clemens both lived at the Toronto SkyDome (there is a hotel attached to the stadium).
    McNamee and Clemens became close professionally while in Toronto, but they were not close
    socially or personally.
    Jose Canseco was playing for the Blue Jays in 1998. On or about June 8-10,
    1998, the Toronto Blue Jays played an away series with the Florida Marlins. McNamee attended
    a lunch party that Canseco hosted at his home in Miami. McNamee stated that, during this
    luncheon, he observed Clemens, Canseco, and another person he did not know meeting inside
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    Canseco’s house, although McNamee did not personally attend that meeting. Canseco told
    members of my investigative staff that he had numerous conversations with Clemens about the
    benefits of Deca-Durabolin and Winstrol and how to “cycle” and “stack” steroids. Canseco has
    made similar statements publicly.385
    Toward the end of the road trip which included the Marlins series, or shortly after
    the Blue Jays returned home to Toronto, Clemens approached McNamee and, for the first time,
    brought up the subject of using steroids. Clemens said that he was not able to inject himself, and
    he asked for McNamee’s help.
    Later that summer, Clemens asked McNamee to inject him with Winstrol, which
    Clemens supplied. McNamee knew the substance was Winstrol because the vials Clemens gave
    him were so labeled. McNamee injected Clemens approximately four times in the buttocks over
    a several-week period with needles that Clemens provided. Each incident took place in
    Clemens’s apartment at the SkyDome. McNamee never asked Clemens where he obtained the
    steroids.
    During the 1998 season (around the time of the injections), Clemens showed
    McNamee a white bottle of Anadrol-50.386 Clemens told McNamee he was not using it but
    wanted to know more about it. McNamee told Clemens not to use it. McNamee said he took the
    385 Jose Canseco, Juiced: Wild Times, Rampant ‘Roids, Smash Hits and How Baseball
    Got Big 211-13 (Regan Books 2005).
    386 Anadrol 50 is the brand name for oxymetholone and, according to a reference book
    targeted at steroid abusers, “is considered by many to be the most powerful steroid commercially
    available.” See William Llewellyn, Anabolics 2006 99 (5th ed. 2006). It can harm the liver and
    produce pronounced androgenic side effects. Id. at 100.
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    bottle and gave it to Canseco.387 McNamee does not know where Clemens obtained the
    Anadrol-50.
    According to McNamee, from the time that McNamee injected Clemens with
    Winstrol through the end of the 1998 season, Clemens’s performance showed remarkable
    improvement. During this period of improved performance, Clemens told McNamee that the
    steroids “had a pretty good effect” on him. McNamee said that Clemens also was training harder
    and dieting better during this time.
    In 1999, Clemens was traded to the New York Yankees. McNamee remained
    under contract with the Blue Jays for the 1999 season. In 2000, the Yankees hired McNamee as
    the assistant strength and conditioning coach under Jeff Mangold. According to McNamee, the
    Yankees hired him because Clemens persuaded them to do so. In this capacity, McNamee
    worked with all of the Yankees players. McNamee was paid both by the Yankees and by
    Clemens personally. Clemens hired McNamee to train him during portions of several weeks in
    the off-season. McNamee also trained Clemens personally for one to two weeks during spring
    training and a few times during the season. McNamee served as the Yankees’ assistant strength
    and conditioning coach through the 2001 season.388
    McNamee first learned about Kirk Radomski through David Segui during the
    2000 season. Also that season, McNamee obtained Radomski’s telephone number from Jason
    Grimsley. McNamee wanted to buy a Lexus, and Radomski had a connection with a Lexus
    dealer. Radomski recalled that Grimsley was a frequent customer for performance enhancing
    387 McNamee stated that he showed the bottle to Canseco because he thought that
    Canseco was knowledgeable and he felt comfortable approaching him. According to McNamee,
    Canseco volunteered to take the bottle.
    388 In his own interview, Mangold was reluctant to discuss McNamee in any respect.
    Mangold said that he was not aware of, and never suspected, any player of using performance
    enhancing substances.
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    substances, and he produced nine checks written by Grimsley to Radomski during 2001 and
    2002 and fourteen checks in total.
    According to McNamee, during the middle of the 2000 season Clemens made it
    clear that he was ready to use steroids again. During the latter part of the regular season,
    McNamee injected Clemens in the buttocks four to six times with testosterone from a bottle
    labeled either Sustanon 250 or Deca-Durabolin that McNamee had obtained from Radomski.
    McNamee stated that during this same time period he also injected Clemens four
    to six times with human growth hormone he received from Radomski, after explaining to
    Clemens the potential benefits and risks of use. McNamee believed that it was probably his idea
    that Clemens try human growth hormone. Radomski instructed McNamee how to inject human
    growth hormone. On each occasion, McNamee administered the injections at Clemens’s
    apartment in New York City.
    McNamee said that he and Clemens did not have any conversations regarding
    performance enhancing substances from late 2000 until August 2001. McNamee did, however,
    train Clemens and Andy Pettitte during the off-season at their homes in Houston. Clemens often
    invited other major league players who lived in the Houston area to train with him.
    McNamee’s training relationship with Clemens and others has been described
    publicly. Peter Gammons reported during spring training 2001:
    Brandon Smith, an apprentice trainer with the Yankees, describes Roger
    Clemens’ day as follows: “He’s one of the first players in every morning,
    runs, does his program with Andy Pettitte, does the team program
    workout, goes to the weight room, leaves, plays 18 holes of golf and
    finally meets (trainer) Brian McNamee at 6 .. . . and a few other players –
    for another workout. It’s incredible how much energy Roger has.”389
    389 Peter Gammons, Indians Expecting Better Year, espn.com, Mar. 11, 2001; see also
    Gary Graves, Clemens on Fire with Desire; Rigorous Workouts Keep 38-year-old All-Star
    Sharp, In Shape, USA Today, July 10, 2001, at C3.
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    According to McNamee, Clemens advised him in August 2001 that he was again
    ready to use steroids. Shortly thereafter, McNamee injected Clemens with Sustanon or Deca-
    Durabolin on four to five occasions at Clemens’s apartment. According to McNamee, he again
    obtained these drugs from Kirk Radomski. McNamee concluded from Clemens’s statements and
    conduct that Clemens did not like using human growth hormone (Clemens told him that he did
    not like the “bellybutton shot&rdquo😉. To McNamee’s knowledge, Clemens did not use human growth
    hormone in 2001.
    McNamee was not retained by the Yankees after the 2001 season. After that
    season, Clemens never again asked McNamee to inject him with performance enhancing
    substances, and McNamee had no further discussions with Clemens about such substances.
    McNamee stated that Clemens did not tell him why he stopped asking him to administer
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    performance enhancing
    substances, and McNamee had no further discussions with Clemens about such substances.
    McNamee stated that Clemens did not tell him why he stopped asking him to administer
    performance enhancing substances, and McNamee has no knowledge about whether Clemens
    used performance enhancing substances after 2001.
    During the years that McNamee stated he facilitated Clemens’s use of steroids
    and human growth hormone, McNamee’s discussions with Clemens about use of these drugs
    were limited. McNamee assumed that Clemens used performance enhancing substances during
    the second half of the season so that he would not tire, but they did not discuss this directly. It
    was Clemens who made the decision when he would use anabolic steroids or human growth
    hormone. McNamee stated that he tried to educate Clemens about these substances; he “gave
    him as much information as possible.”
    Clemens continued to train with McNamee after he was dismissed by the
    Yankees, according to both McNamee and press reports. In October 2006, after the Los Angeles
    Times reported that the names of Clemens and McNamee were among those that had been
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    redacted from an affidavit in support of a search warrant for the residence of Jason Grimsley as
    allegedly involved with the illegal use of performance enhancing substances, Clemens was
    reported to have said: “I’ll continue to use Mac [McNamee] to train me. He’s one of a kind.”390
    McNamee was quoted in a December 10, 2006 news article on steroids as
    reportedly having said: “I never, ever gave Clemens or Pettitte steroids. They never asked me
    for steroids. The only thing they asked me for were vitamins.”391 McNamee told us that he was
    accurately quoted but that he did not tell the truth to the reporter who interviewed him. He
    explained that he was trying to protect his reputation.
    On May 15, 2007, the New York Daily News reported that Clemens had cut ties
    to McNamee.392 McNamee denied that and told us that he trained Clemens after the article was
    published. He added that Clemens now has a home in the New York area, and McNamee
    personally installed a gym there.
    McNamee stated that he has no ill will toward Clemens and “was always ahead
    [financially] with Roger.” McNamee received money for expenses from Clemens’s business
    representatives. They paid McNamee for training Clemens, and for his expenses. From time to
    time Clemens also gave McNamee “extra money.” Clemens never gave money to McNamee
    specifically to buy performance enhancing substances.
    Kirk Radomski recalled meeting McNamee through David Segui. Radomski
    confirmed that he supplied McNamee with human growth hormone and anabolic steroids from
    390 Jack Curry, Cloud Over Clemens’s Finale: He and Pettitte Deny Report, N.Y. Times,
    Oct. 2, 2006, at D1; Lance Pugmire, The Nation; Clemens Is Named in Drug Affidavit,
    L.A. Times, Oct. 1, 2006, at A1.
    391 See William Sherman and T.J. Quinn, Andy Totes Baggage to Bronx, N.Y. Daily
    News, Dec. 10, 2006, at 56. McNamee’s interactions with Pettitte are discussed below.
    392 Christian Red with T.J. Quinn, Roger Seeking Workout Help, N.Y. Daily News,
    May 15, 2007.
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    2000 to 2004. Although McNamee never told Radomski the performance enhancing substances
    obtained were for anything other than McNamee’s personal use, Radomski concluded that
    McNamee was distributing the substances to others based on the amounts he purchased and the
    timing of the purchases.
    Radomski knew McNamee was acting as personal trainer for Roger Clemens,
    Andy Pettitte, and Chuck Knoblauch (among others), and he suspected McNamee was giving the
    performance enhancing substances to some of his clients. Occasionally, McNamee
    acknowledged good performances by Knoblauch or Clemens by “dropping hints,” such as
    “[h]e’s on the program now.” McNamee never explicitly told Radomski that either Clemens or
    Pettitte was using steroids or human growth hormone. According to Radomski, however,
    McNamee asked Radomski what types of substances Radomski was providing to pitchers.
    Radomski delivered the substances to McNamee personally. Radomski recalled
    numerous performance enhancing substance transactions with McNamee. Radomski also
    sometimes trained some of McNamee’s non-professional athlete clients.
    Radomski produced four checks from McNamee that were deposited into
    Radomski’s checking account and drawn on McNamee’s checking account.393 All the checks
    were dated in 2003 and 2004, after McNamee said that he supplied Clemens, Pettitte, and
    Knoblauch. McNamee said these purchases were for non-baseball clients.
    McNamee’s name, with an address and telephone number, is listed in the address
    book seized from Radomski’s residence by federal agents. Radomski’s telephone records show
    twelve calls to McNamee’s telephone number from May through August 2004. Radomski was
    393 One of the checks, in the amount of $2,400, includes a memo stating “Loan Repay
    Sub.” Radomski confirmed that he never loaned McNamee any money and that the check had
    been for one-and-a-half kits of human growth hormone.
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    unable to obtain telephone records dating back to the time when, according to McNamee,
    McNamee was injecting Clemens.
    Clemens appears to be one of the two people associated with baseball – Andy
    Pettitte is the other – who have remained loyal to McNamee after he left the Yankees.394
    Clemens has remained a source of income for McNamee up to and including 2007.
    Prior to my interviews of McNamee he was interviewed by federal officials on
    several occasions, during each of which they informed McNamee that he risked criminal
    prosecution if he was not truthful. I was advised by those officials that on each occasion he told
    them about the performance enhancing substance use of Clemens, Andy Pettitte, and Chuck
    Knoblauch (Pettitte and Knoblauch are discussed below).
    In order to provide Clemens with information about these allegations and to give
    him an opportunity to respond, I asked him to meet with me; he declined.
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    WOW...what is MLB going to do now?

    SOOOO many top names in there, it's a joke!


    And these are only the guys they had enough proof to expose...imagine how many there are that they just can't proove.

    Sooo many record books need to be adjusted if you ask me. The Olympics do it, why not baseball?
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    Originally posted by poundlee
    i did not see varitek or puljos' name in the report but they were continuously shown on CNBC
    I downloaded the report and neither of them showed up. I was really hoping to see Jeter on the list and Arod not on it =)

    Edit: Neither of them made the list.
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