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  1. 14 Nov '09 17:37
    Refs are an issue in College football. I think part of the problem is the BCS system. The two teams that make it to the BCS championship game make a lot of money for their conferences. If a conference can get two teams into the BCS games, it is a great year for the conference.

    How does this tie into refs? Easy, refs are needed to help ensure that top conference teams don't lose. Who does the hiring and firing of refs? The conference big wigs who benefit from having teams in the BCS games.

    The present system is set up for fraud. I don't think that's good for college football.
  2. 14 Nov '09 18:29
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Refs are an issue in College football. I think part of the problem is the BCS system. The two teams that make it to the BCS championship game make a lot of money for their conferences. If a conference can get two teams into the BCS games, it is a great year for the conference.

    How does this tie into refs? Easy, refs are needed to help ensure that top c ...[text shortened]... .

    The present system is set up for fraud. I don't think that's good for college football.
    It certainly seems that the big teams get lots of ticky tacky flags go in their favor as well as reviews. I would not go as far as accusing the refs of fraud, but it certainly seems like a conflict of interest to have the refs paid by the same people who run the league. However, refs get paid very little so it is hard to believe they would willfully make bad calls for that kind of money. I do believe they need Lasik surgery as most are pretty darn blind!
  3. 14 Nov '09 18:33
    Getting paid very little is a matter of perspective.

    Do you disagree that something should be done to do away with the conflict of interest? Perhaps the NCAA should hire and fire the refs. Perhaps part of the money from the BCS system should go into paying refs and those who fire the bad refs. Yes, bad refs should get fired, not just suspended.
  4. 14 Nov '09 19:45
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Getting paid very little is a matter of perspective.

    Do you disagree that something should be done to do away with the conflict of interest? Perhaps the NCAA should hire and fire the refs. Perhaps part of the money from the BCS system should go into paying refs and those who fire the bad refs. Yes, bad refs should get fired, not just suspended.
    It would be great if something could be done to eliminate the conflict of interest. There is a natural human tendency to not bite the hand that feeds you. Therefore, the questionable calls could be influenced subconciously by such factors. It does seem like bad calls rarely go in favor of the weaker teams. Another poster also suggests that home vicotries should be weighed less heavily in favor of the winning team.
  5. 14 Nov '09 20:54
    It could be subconscious, or it could be deliberate. That point can't be debated because neither can be proven.

    In either case, things should be changed. I'm glad to see that you agree with me on that.
  6. 14 Nov '09 21:31
    Originally posted by Eladar
    It could be subconscious, or it could be deliberate. That point can't be debated because neither can be proven.

    In either case, things should be changed. I'm glad to see that you agree with me on that.
    Hey, we don't have to butt heads about everything! Indeed the current state of affairs is dismal. bad calls aboud. I don't know how a ref can miss a call right before his very eyes that I can see on TV. It is disconcerting, ugly, unseemly and lends itself to speculation of the worst kind. After all, it's happned im the NBA (paid refs). Why not in college?
  7. 15 Nov '09 13:35
    It isn't just college football. Tim Donaghy for instance raises all sorts of issues of cheating the NBA. Gambling, how to effect over/ unders, league encouragement of preferential treatment for superstars, scheduling of different refs to extend series, series of one minute phone calls before tip off etc. I believe the potential of ref cheating in sports is a huge issue.
  8. 15 Nov '09 14:56
    Originally posted by quackquack
    It isn't just college football. Tim Donaghy for instance raises all sorts of issues of cheating the NBA. Gambling, how to effect over/ unders, league encouragement of preferential treatment for superstars, scheduling of different refs to extend series, series of one minute phone calls before tip off etc. I believe the potential of ref cheating in sports is a huge issue.
    Where there are refs there will be controversy. Have you ever read the blow by blow of the Fischer-Spaasky match in Reykjavik? In a way having the human factor involved by necessity injects controversy for many calls are judgment calls. This presumes a ref has judgment. That said, I agree entirely that some calls seem rather suspicious. INstant replay was supposed to be an error corrector. No such thing seems to take place. However, some calls are outright stupid. In the Texas game a Baylor corner defensed a pass in most excellent fashion. In his escitement he gets up and signals incomplete. Ruling: taunting, 15 yards. I bleed burnt orange but that was a nonsense call. These are kids and get excited. One woyld have thought the Baylor defender spit in the Texas player's face or something. I hope the taunting and excess celebration callas are eliminated off the rules book for next season.