Originally posted by quackquack
It is true that cheating will never end and there probably will to tougher issues in the future where there are legitimate reasons to use performance enhancing medicines. However this in no way makes it Ok to forgive or look the other way on known cheaters. None of them should ever be honored in the Hall of Fame
I am taking some liberties with your point to stress mine.
Cheating has gone on in baseball since it's inception.
Should I say it again? Cheating has gone on in baseball since it's inception.
Can I prove it and support my claim? You had better believe it.
First and foremost, within the premise of the games rules, it calls for cheating. Ever heard of a runner trying to "steal" a base? Granted, this is small potatoes compared to the rest of my arguement.
Ever heard of an opposing player or players trying to "steal" the other teams signs? Happens all the time. It is cheating, but it is allowed. Then why do they come down on the home team for installing cameras or microphones to assist in this effort, since it is obviously okay to steal signs? Curious indeed!!
Ever heard of a home team manicuring the field to give them an unfair advantage? Happens all the time. Letting the grass grow higher to keep ground balls on the infield against slower teams. Watering the dirt areas extra heavy against faster teams to slow their progress on the basepaths. How about dragging the foul lines so the bunts spin fair on the foul lines, or roll out into foul territory if they so choose?
How about the compostion of the pitcher's mound? Slight elevation adjustments for power pitchers. Softening the landing zone for long striders or slide pitchers. happens all the time.
How about illegal pitches. The spitter? How many verified cheats are in the HOF who openly cheated and were caught? Gaylord Perry is the crown prince. He even wrote a book on how he did it. Then you have the doctor's who use finger nails, files, emory boards, whatever to deface the ball. Scuffers are plentiful and they are in the HOF too, with many more yet to come.
How about users of corked bats or loaded bats? Happens alot, although not as often now.
How about excessive pine tar on the bat? The rule is clear, yet HOF'er George Brett hit a HR in a game with pine tar too far up the handle. When Billy Martin protested, laughing all the way because it was a technicality, the umpire correctly, tossed him out of the game and ruled the hit an out. It wasn't until the furor over the correct call that caused the commissioner to overturn the umpire's decision.
Gambling? Oh baby, don't get me started here. There have been many who gambled, many who gambled on baseball, but only a few caught and crucified. Joe Jackson and Pete Rose are being persecuted and left out of the HOF for thier heinous crimes, but both should be in the HOF with the rest of the cheats.
How about the drunkards, the wife beaters, the whoremongers?? Too many of them to list here, but why not start with Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle and Whitey Ford. The list is long, but my point is made.
Then you have the tax evaders. These are criminals against the governemnt, yet they are throughout the HOF. Mike Schmidt, Reggie Jackson, Willie McCovey, Willie Mays and Orlando Cepeda are just a few of the guilty here.
Now we have steroids. I am so sick of listening to the rhetoric on this topic. Now we have people wanting to taint the record book because of suspected steroid use. Wake up and smell the coffee!! Equipment is better. Technique is better. Modes of travel are better. These reasons alone contribute to why there are differences between decades in player output and performance. The use of steroids is but on little part of the puzzle.
Look at all of the ways there are to cheat mentioned above, and look how many cheats there are in the HOF, and tell me who in the heck these idiots think they are kidding? The whole arguement is a joke. Especially in light of the fact that the owner's were the ones who requested that players juice in the beginning, and in many cases, made the stuff available to them. Shocked? Don't be. The reason was they had lost the fan base due to the labor wars and the subsequent strike and lockout and they had to win the fans back. They figured the way to do it was with offense. They did everthing imaginiable to spur offense from shrinking the strike zone to shortening fences, to providing performance enhancing drugs to star players and many cusp players. Then, the pitcher's were forced to follow suit to try and stay on equal footing with the hitters. Bud Selig knew of this and he is as guilty as the other cronies in the billionaire boys club who control the game.
None of this is conjecture. This is all fact. First hand knowledge fact. There are many in the know. The writers are a bunch of contempable scum for the most part too. They work the bribes for story angles and story lines. They can make or break players by what they write. They cut deals for exclusives and are basically a bunch of whores not worthy of wasting a bullet on. Note, that I said "most" not "all" There are some good guys out there that do it right. However, these are the ones who sit in judgement of the players who are considered for the HOF.
The whole process and concept has become a mockery and a menagerie.