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  1. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    25 May '07 09:40
    Rafa is demanding more money to be able to compete.

    Most blatant confession of being a checkbook manager ever? Discuss.
  2. 25 May '07 10:02
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Rafa is demanding more money to be able to compete.

    Most blatant confession of being a checkbook manager ever? Discuss.
    He is obviously mad.

    The best players in the world would flock to Liverpool "city of culture" and play for free.

    He should insist Gerrard should take a pay cut as well. £300 a week is plenty.

    Its not as if footbal is run for the money after all. Chelsean, Man Utd and Arsenal would never dream of spending over £10 for a player.

    Real smart post.
  3. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    25 May '07 10:08
    Originally posted by petrosianpupil
    He is obviously mad.

    The best players in the world would flock to Liverpool "city of culture" and play for free.

    He should insist Gerrard should take a pay cut as well. £300 a week is plenty.

    Its not as if footbal is run for the money after all. Chelsean, Man Utd and Arsenal would never dream of spending over £10 for a player.

    Real smart post.
    You didn't really understand the point of my post, but don't sweat about it.
  4. 25 May '07 11:14
    Originally posted by Palynka
    You didn't really understand the point of my post, but don't sweat about it.
    The point of your post was a blatant bit of fishing to see who'd bite.
  5. 25 May '07 11:28
    Originally posted by Angry Boy
    The point of your post was a blatant bit of fishing to see who'd bite.
    I bite too often and that was the point of my reply too!
  6. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    25 May '07 11:44
    Originally posted by Angry Boy
    The point of your post was a blatant bit of fishing to see who'd bite.
    At least you got a part of it right. Not the main point, though. Shame, really, I thought you would.
  7. 25 May '07 12:07 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Palynka
    At least you got a part of it right. Not the main point, though. Shame, really, I thought you would.
    I'm sorry, I presumed anyone who reads your posts would know it was a light hearted dig at Liverpool (and other) fans who have failed to acknowledge your hero Jose Mourinho's acheivements with Chelsea. Preferring instead to call him a "cheque book manager" as you put it. I take it this was what you meant?

    I'm surprised it didn't hook a few more to be honest.
  8. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    25 May '07 12:17
    Originally posted by Angry Boy
    I'm sorry, I presumed anyone who reads your posts would know it was a light hearted dig at Liverpool (and other) fans who have failed to acknowledge your hero Jose Mourinho's acheivements with Chelsea. Preferring instead to call him a "cheque book manager" as you put it. I take it this was what you meant?

    I'm surprised it didn't hook a few more to be honest.
    Ouch.

    Grammatical mistakes aside, my point was that all those nitwits that devalue Mourinho's work just because he spent large should realize that any coach with the power to spend would do so.
  9. Standard member Daemon Sin
    I'm A Mighty Pirateā„¢
    25 May '07 12:32
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Rafa is demanding more money to be able to compete.

    Most blatant confession of being a checkbook manager ever? Discuss.
    Definitely. I think he's starting to feel a little left out. Liverpool have done well this season but all the other managers of the top 5 English Clubs have much deeper pockets than him. There has been a fair few rumours about Liverpool needing to bolster their squad and poor old Rafa hasn't got the readies to keep up with likes of Man Utd. and Chelsea.
  10. 25 May '07 12:33
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Ouch.

    Grammatical mistakes aside, my point was that all those nitwits that devalue Mourinho's work just because he spent large should realize that any coach with the power to spend would do so.
    Rafa's not had big money to spend before, it'll be interesting to see how he spends it. LFC are clearly lacking out wide and up front (aren't they always?) so maybe linking Mascherano up with his old pal Mr Tevez (who's proven he can cut it in the Premiership) would be good idea.
  11. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    25 May '07 12:45
    Originally posted by Angry Boy
    Rafa's not had big money to spend before, it'll be interesting to see how he spends it. LFC are clearly lacking out wide and up front (aren't they always?) so maybe linking Mascherano up with his old pal Mr Tevez (who's proven he can cut it in the Premiership) would be good idea.
    He spent around 80 million quid in 3 seasons, but I agree that he spent much less than Chelsea.

    Mascherano could be a key player for Liverpool. I'm not so sure that having his pal over would be good, it could be as performance boosting as disruptive.

    I do agree that Liverpool needs better cover in the wings. Defence is not a priority, I guess. A midfield trio of Masch, Alonso, Gerrard seems solid. Then there's the question of 4-4-2, 4-5-1 or 4-3-3. What do you think it's more likely? 4-5-1 works well in cup competitions, but I have my doubts about the premiership. If 4-5-1, at least the wingers should be very attack-minded. Zenden just isn't good enough and Pennant isn't regular. What do you think of the Owen rumours and in what tactical scheme would you fit him in?
  12. 25 May '07 12:51
    Originally posted by Palynka
    He spent around 80 million quid in 3 seasons, but I agree that he spent much less than Chelsea.

    Mascherano could be a key player for Liverpool. I'm not so sure that having his pal over would be good, it could be as performance boosting as disruptive.

    I do agree that Liverpool needs better cover in the wings. Defence is not a priority, I guess. A midfie ...[text shortened]... ar. What do you think of the Owen rumours and in what tactical scheme would you fit him in?
    I hope the Owen rumours are just that - rumours. He can put away chances but he couldn't play up front on his own and due to his height is not likely to benefit from good crossing from the flanks. I'd prefer to see Tevez than any of the other names mentioned, although I wouldn't say no if Eto'o was interested!
  13. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    25 May '07 12:56 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Angry Boy
    I hope the Owen rumours are just that - rumours. He can put away chances but he couldn't play up front on his own and due to his height is not likely to benefit from good crossing from the flanks. I'd prefer to see Tevez than any of the other names mentioned, although I wouldn't say no if Eto'o was interested!
    My thoughts exactly, Owen would fit better in a 4-4-2 formation, and I don't see an easy fit for a 4-man midfield.

    In a different perspective, if Owen has any chance to get back to former glory, Liverpool is the best club for him to do it.

    Edit - I love the pre-season.
  14. Standard member Ragnorak
    For RHP addons...
    25 May '07 21:00
    Originally posted by Palynka
    my point was that all those nitwits that devalue Mourinho's work just because he spent large should realize that any coach with the power to spend would do so.


    You've two coaches...
    A) spends £700 thrillion and wins 2 leagues and 2 cups.
    B) operates on a transfer surplus and wins 2 leagues and 2 cups.

    Which is the better manager?

    Also, apart from the appalling lack of appreciation of truth in your point, you should realise that devaluing Mourinho's work due to his big spending, and what every coach would like to do are completely independent of each other.

    D
  15. Standard member Rooney Once a Blue
    Always a Red
    26 May '07 10:48
    Originally posted by Ragnorak


    You've two coaches...
    A) spends £700 thrillion and wins 2 leagues and 2 cups.
    B) operates on a transfer surplus and wins 2 leagues and 2 cups.

    Which is the better manager?

    Also, apart from the appalling lack of appreciation of truth in your point, you should realise that devaluing Mourinho's work due to his big spending, and what every coach would like to do are completely independent of each other.

    D
    Mourinho has made good and bad buys using the cheque book.
    Mourinho has developed talent through coaching while at Chelsea.

    Rafa has not signed a single top class player for Liverpool using the cheque book.
    Rafa has not improved any player he has brought in to Liverpool, infact most have been moved on.