Originally posted by shortcircuit
Explain to me the differences in cheating?
Are you judge and jury as to what type of cheating is worse than another?
I am talking about players who threw games.
Players who doctored equipment being used in games.
Players who evaded paying income taxes intentionally.
Players who were drug users and abusers.
Players who were narcotics possessors ...[text shortened]... you distinguish between "good" infractions of the rules, and "bad" infractions of the rules?
I am not foolish enough to think all violations are equal. When substances allow guys to do things that are otherwise impossible action needs to be taken.
Here is the list of homeruns by season all time leaders. No one else in century comes closer to what the cheaters were able to do during the height of the steriod era:
Bonds (age 36) 2001 73 homeruns
McGwire (age 34) 1998 70 homeruns
Sosa (age 29) 1998 66 homeruns
McGwire (age 35) 1999 65 homeruns
Sosa (age 32) 2001 64 homeruns
Sosa (age 63) 1999 63 homeruns
I am not moralizing what is good or bad behavior I am only concerned on substances which give players an unfair advantage. Commiting adultry isn't cheating as it does not make you a better player. Neither does not paying income taxes. Drugs like alcohol would hurt not help you play better. I am not concerned by those who abuse them. Abusing women also does not help you play better. Gambling/ throwing games certainly does not help you win either. These simply are complete nonissues for cheating although I would concede that it probably makes you a bad person.
Clemens trial was a joke. Pettitte was no allowed to testify that he got drugs from McNamee. They were not allowed to testify that he was inject with steriods they were forced to call them "darts."
Here are Clemens' stats:
Age 31 11-14 4.46 ERA
Age 32 9-7 2.85 ERA
Age 33 10-5 4.18 ERA
Age 34 10-13 3.63 ERA
TOTAL for last four years in Boston is 40-39 with two 4+ ERA seasons only 1 year over 200 innings. His career is in rapid decline as would be expected from power pitchers in the 30s.
Then he goes to Toronto and meets McNamee a known provider of steriods. The Mitchell report details how he provided to Clemens, Pettitte testifies that McNamee provided steriods to Clemens and him. There is physical evidence with Clemens' DNA.
Age 35 21-7 2.05 264 IP (where does this season come from?)
Age 36 20-6 2.65 234.2 IP
he pitches until age 45. never goes below .500 again. Has 5 more 200+ seasons at ages 38, 39, 41, 42, 43.
Goes 20-3 at age 38, goes 18-4 with a .298 at age 42.
I am simply not sure what else any sane person needs to conclude that Clemens' career is 100% fraudulent.