How 'bout those Pats?

Originally posted by no1marauder
Tough to when Goodall had all the film from previous seasons submitted by the Pats to the commissioner's office destroyed. At any rate, you admitted they cheated in prior years last page!

EDIT: Phlab: He [Mangini] ran and snitched on something he'd been [b]involved in with the Pats[/b]

allegedly involved. Some say he went rogue and was solely responsible for all misdeeds the Pats are accused of.

Originally posted by no1marauder
What a couple of liars; obviously you're rooting for the right team.

Still can't handle that the Pats are better than your team, eh? (whoever your team is, since the Pats are better than ANY other team this year).

Like I said, Belichik took his 10 yards, it's over. Only a true clown would persist in this ridiculous temper tantrum against the Patriots for being the truly great team that they are.

The Pats are a pretty good team.

I have to believe they would have won at least one of those Suepr Bowls even without the cheating.

Originally posted by Red Night
The Pats are a pretty good team.

I have to believe they would have won at least one of those Suepr Bowls even without the cheating.

Lol!! Ohh, that's harsh. 😀

Originally posted by Red Night
The Pats are a pretty good team.

I have to believe they would have won at least one of those Suepr Bowls even without the cheating.

Show me where they won any of them due to cheating...

(Is there something in the rules which specifically addresses snow removal?)

Originally posted by Maxwell Smart
Show me where they won any of them due to cheating...

(Is there something in the rules which specifically addresses snow removal?)

The Pats were busted for cheating, get over it!!

Originally posted by SmookieP
The Pats were busted for cheating, get over it!!

Nice try. Next time, take a couple of minutes to read the thread.

As I have stated numerous times: Belichik took his 10 yards. It's over, so get over it.

An unclear interpretation of a videotaping rule, which Belichik paid the fine on without appealing (!) doesn't make the Patriots cheaters. Most teams have (and continue to) taped. They all access footage from other teams. Just becuase your sorry teams can't win doesn't discredit the wins that the Pats have attained, and by the way, they are still undefeated since the alleged cheating incident.

Go ahead, explain that big mouth.

I don't see what the big fuss is - if you're allowed to bring snowplows or amplify your crowd noise with the PA, why such an uproar about a camcorder?

The fact that the Patriots had to be punished means that they are cheaters. I am not sure what, other than erasing facts, can change this reality.

Originally posted by jofaz
The fact that the Patriots had to be punished means that they are cheaters. I am not sure what, other than erasing facts, can change this reality.

They were busted recording a video they NEVER SAW

They crushed Jets without it.

They crushed everyone else without it.

You don't think these teams are smart enough to switch signs game to game, and even half to half? Give me a break.

NE Pats are the greatest team, as Don Shula... he was smart enough to realize he was WRONG about them.

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Originally posted by richjohnson
I don't see what the big fuss is - if you're allowed to bring snowplows or amplify your crowd noise with the PA, why such an uproar about a camcorder?

Once NFL realized teams were pumping sound, they told them to stop. No one has been busted doing it after that to my knowledge.

If they were, they cheated... that doesn't make them cheats for life if they stop.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
Once NFL realized teams were pumping sound, they told them to stop. No one has been busted doing it after that to my knowledge.

If they were, they cheated... that doesn't make them cheats for life if they stop.

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actually it is untrue. If you were convicted of rape you are a rapist even if you stop. If you are convicted of murder you are a murder even if you only murdered once. The NFL destroyed the tapes and refused to indicate how long the Patriots had been doing this activity. Once you are convicted of cheating you are a cheater.

Originally posted by jofaz
actually it is untrue. If you were convicted of rape you are a rapist even if you stop. If you are convicted of murder you are a murder even if you only murdered once. The NFL destroyed the tapes and refused to indicate how long the Patriots had been doing this activity. Once you are convicted of cheating you are a cheater.

I only feel that way about a rapist or murderer if they were not caught, or are on trial and the evidence seems overwhelming, or they are serving time.

Once they've done their time / paid their debt they are not murderers or rapists.

Example:

"hear about the guy who moved in up the street? He was convicted of rape years ago and went to jail."

He was a rapist.

vs.

"Hear about the guy up the road? I believe he's a rapist! They came and took him away after a woman was raped and turned him it. Doesn't look good, he's going to jail".

He's probably a rapist.

vs.

"Dude! I saw that guy rape a woman! I hit him over the head with a log and called 911."

Also, you can see some of the tapes at youtube. Someone leaked them to Fox NFL. There is no way they were destroyed, although you probably can't find them in their entirety.

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Originally posted by jofaz
actually it is untrue. If you were convicted of rape you are a rapist even if you stop. If you are convicted of murder you are a murder even if you only murdered once. The NFL destroyed the tapes and refused to indicate how long the Patriots had been doing this activity. Once you are convicted of cheating you are a cheater.

Also, comparing video of a NFL team to Rape and Murder makes you an idiot. Just thought I'd let you know.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
Also, comparing video of a NFL team to Rape and Murder makes you an idiot. Just thought I'd let you know.

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You're right. People are way more upset over the video than they are the rape and murders.