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WE LOST TODAY EVERYONE HERE IS IN SHOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by richfeetWhat happened, I will tell you what happened.
WE LOST TODAY EVERYONE HERE IS IN SHOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Red NightI would say they are a good team but by all indications with their winning record people know this. It all stems from their new coach. Whats his name? Zucker? Anyhew, he is a great recruiter and perhaps one of the best if not the best coach in the Big Ten.
Illinois is one of the most under-rated teams in the country.
Originally posted by whodeyRon Zook is the coach for Illinois, good coach and a very good recruiter like you said. He's an ex-Florida coach, did ok there, but didn't have much of a class to work with at the time. Hard with such high expectations anyways. Illinois will hopefully be patient with him.
I would say they are a good team but by all indications with their winning record people know this. It all stems from their new coach. Whats his name? Zucker? Anyhew, he is a great recruiter and perhaps one of the best if not the best coach in the Big Ten.
Originally posted by SmookiePThey say that last year's national champs included a lot of his recruits.
Ron Zook is the coach for Illinois, good coach and a very good recruiter like you said. He's an ex-Florida coach, did ok there, but didn't have much of a class to work with at the time. Hard with such high expectations anyways. Illinois will hopefully be patient with him.
It is arrogant to say that OSU's loss is shocking.. I'll let No1Marauder explain it, as he's done 'ad nauseum' in the other thread.
Originally posted by Red NightIt is quite true that last year's champion had benefitted from Zook's recruiting skills. It's also true that Florida's talent pool has been the best in the Nation over the last 30 years or so. Look how the state's teams have done over that period. Especially the south Florida region. They grow them strong, lean, and mean.
They say that last year's national champs included a lot of his recruits.
Re: #1. I don't think this is an example of Big 10 weakness as muc has Big 10 depth. Illinois is a good team.
Originally posted by Red NightIllinois is a good team, but probably barely a top 25 one. Missouri beat them in Illinois to start the season. If Missouri's the 3rd best team in the Big 12 (we'll see after they play Kansas, they already lost to Oklahoma) and Illinois is the 3rd best in the Big Ten, what does that tell you?
They say that last year's national champs included a lot of his recruits.
Re: #1. I don't think this is an example of Big 10 weakness as muc has Big 10 depth. Illinois is a good team.
Originally posted by no1marauderAs much as I hate to admit it, OSU should never have been rated #2 after their showing against Florida at the end of the season last year. Everyone and their brother knew that a team like USC would have destroyed them if given the oppurtunity. Especially after what USC did to Michigan. OSU did not beat up Michigan that badly.
Illinois is a good team, but probably barely a top 25 one. Missouri beat them in Illinois to start the season. If Missouri's the 3rd best team in the Big 12 (we'll see after they play Kansas, they already lost to Oklahoma) and Illinois is the 3rd best in the Big Ten, what does that tell you?
Ohio State couldn't handle a running QB like Juic he "fluke" theory some "experts" here have been espousing when the team they like lose.
Originally posted by whodeyI'll be a bit surprised if Kansas or Hawaii wins out. In all probability, there won't be any undefeated teams. I'll go out on a limb and predict it winds up with an Oklahoma-Oregon matchup. At this point, I'd pick Oregon but I'd like to see a few more Sooner game (the last one I saw was their loss to Colorado).
As much as I hate to admit it, OSU should never have been rated #2 after their showing against Florida at the end of the season last year. Everyone and their brother knew that a team like USC would have destroyed them if given the oppurtunity. Especially after what USC did to Michigan. OSU did not beat up Michigan that badly.
As far as Kansas goes, we w ...[text shortened]... on vs. Kansas match up in the NC if this happens. In such a match up, however, I pick Oregon.
Originally posted by myteamtrulystinksI think LSU will get upset either by Arkansas in their last game or by Tennessee or Georgia in the SEC Championship game. We're due for one more big upset. I agree if LSU wins out, they'll be in the BCS Championship game.
Are you assuming LSU loses? Because if they win out I don't see Oklahoma passing them
Originally posted by no1marauderHere is another scenairo for you. LSU wins out and OU wins out. OU leapfrogs Oregon who plays a sedate schedule the rest of the way. This produces an LSU vs. OU national championship game.
I think LSU will get upset either by Arkansas in their last game or by Tennessee or Georgia in the SEC Championship game. We're due for one more big upset. I agree if LSU wins out, they'll be in the BCS Championship game.