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Originally posted by shortcircuitAnd THAT was precisely Christine Gregoire and Patty Murray's fault.
THAT is precisely why they lost the Sonics!!!
Originally posted by RBHILLYou might want to check the numbers. OKC demonstrated that it could sell tickets when it got the Hornets. They sell out the games in OKC while Seattle always had empy seats.
Why did they leave in the first place? I would think they would do better in tickets being sold then in okey ville.
Originally posted by EladarNo it's just that the people who would go to a game are the ones that don't have the money. I went to games all the time but a lot of people I knew couldn't afford it.
You might want to check the numbers. OKC demonstrated that it could sell tickets when it got the Hornets. They sell out the games in OKC while Seattle always had empy seats.
OKC may not be as rich as Seattle, but people in Oklahoma love to watch sports and are willing to buy tickets. I think the problem with Seattle is that most people up there simply aren't very interested in watching basketball.
Originally posted by tomtom232Christine and Patty did the RIGHT thing. Seattle has more imporntant things to spend tax dollars on in these economic times, than sports facilitles for billionare owners, and millionare players so they can over charge the public for there "so called" entertainment. Let the owners build there own facilities!
And THAT was precisely Christine Gregoire and Patty Murray's fault.
Originally posted by bill718WRONG! Stadiums are a major source of revenue whether or not the basketball games are sold out since there are other events as well. Other than that Key Arena got on many peoples nerves and their bad service and PR were a big reason people didn't attend games. Look what happened when Safeco Field was first built, or Qwest Field... Attendance skyrocketed.
Christine and Patty did the RIGHT thing. Seattle has more imporntant things to spend tax dollars on in these economic times, than sports facilitles for billionare owners, and millionare players so they can over charge the public for there "so called" entertainment. Let the owners build there own facilities!
Originally posted by tomtom232I don't care what attendence did in Qwest field. Spending tax dollars for buildings to house 'for profit' teams is wrong. As A Real Estate agent, I employ title companies, building contractors, attorneys, and building inspectors in closing my transactions...I don't see anyone building me anything, and they shouldn't. Business's sucking tax dollars in order to make a profit is corporate welfare, and it's wrong! ðŸ˜
WRONG! Stadiums are a major source of revenue whether or not the basketball games are sold out since there are other events as well. Other than that Key Arena got on many peoples nerves and their bad service and PR were a big reason people didn't attend games. Look what happened when Safeco Field was first built, or Qwest Field... Attendance skyrocketed.
Originally posted by bill718You must not understand economics. Something that creates revenue is a bad thing to get rid of when the economy is bad. Since the Sonics left the debt has gone up three fold. Plus raising tax has historically been the correct decision when the economy is bad... it makes sense... if people won't spend their money we gotta force them to so we can create cashflow(or intice them to with a new stadium)
I don't care what attendence did in Qwest field. Spending tax dollars for buildings to house 'for profit' teams is wrong. As A Real Estate agent, I employ title companies, building contractors, attorneys, and building inspectors in closing my transactions...I don't see anyone building me anything, and they shouldn't. Business's sucking tax dollars in order to make a profit is corporate welfare, and it's wrong! ðŸ˜
Originally posted by tomtom232I must not understand economics? Gee, that's funny, I have a degree in economics from the University of Washington (Magna). I must be pretty stupid! So...we take our hard earned tax dollars, build facilities for sports teams because they stimulate the local economy? So...where do you think we should draw the line? Should we build buildings for Insurance companies, because they do the same thing? How about Oil companies? Law offices?
You must not understand economics. Something that creates revenue is a bad thing to get rid of when the economy is bad. Since the Sonics left the debt has gone up three fold. Plus raising tax has historically been the correct decision when the economy is bad... it makes sense... if people won't spend their money we gotta force them to so we can create cashflow(or intice them to with a new stadium)
Originally posted by shortcircuitA couple problems with your argument:
Two problems with your argument:
First, they are not selling out a major arena for WNBA games.
Second, if they get the NBA back, the WNBA support will dwindle.
So I don't think you can base your argument solely on WNBA support.
Originally posted by bill718A stadium is not just used for a sports team. As I have stated before many other city events are held in stadiums.
I must not understand economics? Gee, that's funny, I have a degree in economics from the University of Washington (Magna). I must be pretty stupid! So...we take our hard earned tax dollars, build facilities for sports teams because they stimulate the local economy? So...where do you think we should draw the line? Should we build buildings for Insurance comp ...[text shortened]... e treated as such. You can't give special handouts to some, while ignoring others. Get it?? 🙄
Originally posted by tomtom232It does not matter how many other city events are held at a sports facility funded by tax dollars. If a for profit sports team uses it as home field, it's still corporate welfare. You can dance around this fact all you want, but you are still wrong.
A stadium is not just used for a sports team. As I have stated before many other city events are held in stadiums.
Also, there is no need to throw a degree around. I know plenty of people who have finagled their degrees and can't stand on two feet.
Originally posted by tomtom232In Oklahoma, even those who can't afford to go to the games end up buying tickets and going to the games. That's why OKC is such a great market for the NBA.
No it's just that the people who would go to a game are the ones that don't have the money. I went to games all the time but a lot of people I knew couldn't afford it.
Originally posted by MoneyManMikeDisagree with you here.
A couple problems with your argument:
1. Selling out an arena is not necessary to support a WNBA team.
2. WNBA support won't dwindle if they get a NBA team since the WNBA season occurs during the NBA off season.