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My question is, would college football be better off without the NCAA? Should athletes be payed and treated as the adults or is there a benefit to this slave labor?
Originally posted by whodeyWell counselor, are refer to "slave labor" and getting "paid"....but you are failing to see
My question is, would college football be better off without the NCAA? Should athletes be payed and treated as the adults or is there a benefit to this slave labor?
Originally posted by EladarSpoken by a non jock who doesn't have a clue.
How about taking athletics out of education all together? I'd be in favor of that!
This mixing of professional sports and education is a joke. Sure a few schools make big bucks on sports, but most schools lose money. It isn't the NCAA. It's the entire idea of glorifying jocks at educational institutions.
Originally posted by shortcircuitI was Second Team All-Lone Star Conference in college. I played football for Abilene Christian. I played center.
Spoken by a non jock who doesn't have a clue.
Everyone playing college athletics isn't on scholarship.
Many of those on scholarship aren't even on a full scholarship.
Now you say they should eliminate athletics from college?
How about the scholar-athletes?
You would penalize them because you have a hard on against the pros?
Get a grip.
Originally posted by EladarSo, having played, why would you say the separation of education and athletics should
I was Second Team All-Lone Star Conference in college. I played football for Abilene Christian. I played center.
Originally posted by EladarSo, isn't your problem more with the coaches and the individual institutions that bend
It seems to me that there is a conflict of interest. There were a number of people on the team who were there just to play football. They used steroids and didn't exactly represent the University very well, but because they played football that didn't matter so much.
One of those players ended up on America's Most Wanted. It was about 20 years ago when ...[text shortened]... league for the NFL and allow student athletes to go to college, the problem will not stop.
Originally posted by EladarHear, hear!
How about taking athletics out of education all together? I'd be in favor of that!
This mixing of professional sports and education is a joke. Sure a few schools make big bucks on sports, but most schools lose money. It isn't the NCAA. It's the entire idea of glorifying jocks at educational institutions.
Originally posted by Shallow BlueAhhh, but how can you separate the two when they are the same animal??
Hear, hear!
Great athletes should be given sponsorship for performing in their sports.
Great academics should be given sponsorship for furthering their studies.
Athletes should not be paid for playing American Football under the pretense of studying. That's just wrong; it insults both the real students and the real athletes.
Richard
Originally posted by shortcircuitThen the great student/ athletes should recieve both of course but not in the same stroke. They should get a sponsorship and a scholarship.
Ahhh, but how can you separate the two when they are the same animal??
Edit: By that I mean, are you saying all athletes are not good students?
How do you think the term "Academic All American" came about.
I played baseball and was on the Dean's List every semester.
I would have had a shot at playing professionally, but blew out my shoulder.
I ...[text shortened]... cause of daddy's money.
They aren't athletes, but they make the same mockery you speak of.
Originally posted by shortcircuitYup, and I think they should not be allowed to interfere with the real students, either.
I agree, there are some who are dumb as a stump.
Got news for you though, there are some party animals who attend because of daddy's money.
They aren't athletes, but they make the same mockery you speak of.
Originally posted by Shallow BlueThen, you certainly also must be disgusted with "students who take up spots in classes
Yup, and I think they should not be allowed to interfere with the real students, either.
If you want someone at college who is a real student and a good athlete, give him a grant to study and allow him to play some sport in his spare time. That's no problem at all.
The problem is with university grants for athletic achievement. I hav ...[text shortened]... your people rather than to panem et circenses. And that's the real problem.
Richard
Originally posted by shortcircuitYour argument is clearly biased and you clearly didn't read his whole post. Please read it again.
Then, you certainly also must be disgusted with "students who take up spots in classes
only because their parents are wealthy and spend the money for their child(ren) to
go experience fraternity life...party to the fullest...and, oh yeah, go to school sometimes.
Of course, the prospective students who really want to be in college and have everything ...[text shortened]... thing but self-serving ideals.
Sorry Rich, but you have totally missed the boat here.
Originally posted by tomtom232Oh, I did read it. His post was clear. However, his dual grant scenario is unrealistic,
Your argument is clearly biased and you clearly didn't read his whole post. Please read it again.