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  1. Standard member Phlabibit
    Mystic Meg
    15 Oct '08 18:44 / 2 edits
    Tampa will sit "Big Game James" because their backs are against the WALL in ALCS with defending champion Red Sox! This may be the epic collapse we've ALL been expecting.

    Now they (Rays) have to decide whom to put on the mound.

    Right-hander James Shields has been the scheduled starter, but they were considering switching to left-hander Scott Kazmir.

    “It’s possible,” manager Joe Maddon said.
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    There seemed to be several theories in play. One was that with a 3-1 lead they’d switch to Kazmir, knowing Shields was still available for a potential Game 6 at home, where he pitches better. Another was that if they have the chance to finish off the Sox, they should use their most dependable pitcher, which would be Shields.

    Kazmir, who has struggled in two postseason starts, has pitched well in Fenway, 4-4 with a 3.02 ERA even after one rough outing and one so-so outing this season. Moving him up would allow the Rays to use the bullpen freely if needed, with the benefit of a day off Friday. And it would avoid having Kazmir work Game 6 with the plate staffed by umpire Derryl Cousins, whom he blasted after a June game.


    From: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=ArYSmqNlNYq4YUH.eDLMw1gq0bYF?slug=teamreports-2008-mlb-tam&prov=sportsxchange&type=team_report
  2. Subscriber shortcircuit
    The Energizer
    15 Oct '08 21:04
    I have a feeling Tampa could pitch the janitor and he would beat the Sox. Just tell him not to pitch to Pedroia.
  3. Standard member GalaxyShield
    Mr. Shield
    15 Oct '08 21:20 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    Tampa will sit "Big Game James" because their backs are against the WALL in ALCS with defending champion Red Sox! This may be the epic collapse we've ALL been expecting.

    Now they (Rays) have to decide whom to put on the mound.

    Right-hander James Shields has been the scheduled starter, but they were considering switching to left-hander Scott Kazmi rYSmqNlNYq4YUH.eDLMw1gq0bYF?slug=teamreports-2008-mlb-tam&prov=sportsxchange&type=team_report
    Sounds like good baseballing to me. You're up 3-1, you have to face the Sox' only solid pitcher in the series so far, then get to face Beckett who is sucking it up. Who would you rather throw your best pitcher at, when you know you can probably get great offense off of Beckett?
  4. 15 Oct '08 22:18
    Originally posted by GalaxyShield
    Sounds like good baseballing to me. You're up 3-1, you have to face the Sox' only solid pitcher in the series so far, then get to face Beckett who is sucking it up. Who would you rather throw your best pitcher at, when you know you can probably get great offense off of Beckett?
    Thank you. Finally somebody who agrees with me. If Kazmir can't pull off the win, then Shields pitches at home. If Kazmir pulls it off, they start the World Series with Shields on the mound at home. Plus, Kazmir is a pretty good pitcher. He ended up with the win in the All-Star Game.
  5. Standard member KJCavalier
    Happier Now!!
    16 Oct '08 09:34
    Originally posted by golfer1
    Thank you. Finally somebody who agrees with me. If Kazmir can't pull off the win, then Shields pitches at home. If Kazmir pulls it off, they start the World Series with Shields on the mound at home. Plus, Kazmir is a pretty good pitcher. He ended up with the win in the All-Star Game.
    I thinkit a sound strategy too. Besides, the ways the sox have been playing this series, it's a miracle they made it this far. They have looked terrible, in Fenway no less!!!
  6. 16 Oct '08 17:59
    Originally posted by KJCavalier
    I thinkit a sound strategy too. Besides, the ways the sox have been playing this series, it's a miracle they made it this far. They have looked terrible, in Fenway no less!!!
    Even if the Redsox win game 5, there's no way they can beat the Rays two more times in Tropicana field.
  7. Subscriber shortcircuit
    The Energizer
    16 Oct '08 18:50
    Originally posted by Arachnarchist
    Even if the Redsox win game 5, there's no way they can beat the Rays two more times in Tropicana field.
    While I would never say "no way it could happen" (right you Yankee fans ) let's say the odds are pretty long against them. Let's face it, the Red Sox do have their best three starters going in those games. I would not bet against the Rays (especially since I picked them to win).
  8. 16 Oct '08 18:53
    Originally posted by shortcircuit
    While I would never say "no way it could happen" (right you Yankee fans ) let's say the odds are pretty long against them. Let's face it, the Red Sox do have their best three starters going in those games. I would not bet against the Rays (especially since I picked them to win).
    Okay, you're right, it's possible but their odds are greatly diminished by the fact that two of these three games they have to win are on the road. I am well aware of the fact that the sox came back from a 3-1 deficit last year, but there the last two were in fenway.
  9. Subscriber shortcircuit
    The Energizer
    16 Oct '08 19:00
    Originally posted by Arachnarchist
    Okay, you're right, it's possible but their odds are greatly diminished by the fact that two of these three games they have to win are on the road. I am well aware of the fact that the sox came back from a 3-1 deficit last year, but there the last two were in fenway.
    To win 3 in a row anywhere in the playoffs is great and very difficult. I will tell you one thing about pressure. Tonight it will all be on the Sox. However, IF the Sox win the game, believe it or not, the pressure will revert to Tampa because they are supposed to win, and they have their "big money" pitcher going. Should they lose than game, their collect sphincters will be the size of a pinhead in game 7 and the Sox will have more confidence because they have been there before. Tampa needs to win it tonight, or it will be a 50-50 proposition for them in game 6.
  10. 17 Oct '08 07:49
    Originally posted by shortcircuit
    ... However, [b]after the Sox win the game...[/b]
    fixed

    Go Mighty Boston Sports Machine!
  11. 17 Oct '08 13:32
    Originally posted by shortcircuit
    To win 3 in a row anywhere in the playoffs is great and very difficult. I will tell you one thing about pressure. Tonight it will all be on the Sox. However, IF the Sox win the game, believe it or not, the pressure will revert to Tampa because they are supposed to win, and they have their "big money" pitcher going. Should they lose than game, their coll ...[text shortened]... e before. Tampa needs to win it tonight, or it will be a 50-50 proposition for them in game 6.
    I respectfully disagree. Even though they lost game 5, they have a good chance to do it in game 6. Even if Beckett is pitching, we've already seen that the rays can get to him. Besides, now they're going home.

    However, I would say that if they lose game 6 then they will probably lose game 7 as well.
  12. Standard member Phlabibit
    Mystic Meg
    17 Oct '08 13:55
    Originally posted by Arachnarchist
    I respectfully disagree. Even though they lost game 5, they have a good chance to do it in game 6. Even if Beckett is pitching, we've already seen that the rays can get to him. Besides, now they're going home.

    However, I would say that if they lose game 6 then they will probably lose game 7 as well.
    It's already ovah! Sox lost last night. I should know, they were down 7-0 when I SHUT IT OFF!

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  13. Standard member HandyAndy
    Non sum qualis eram
    17 Oct '08 14:16
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    It's already ovah! Sox lost last night. I should know, they were down 7-0 when I SHUT IT OFF!

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    And then, Maddon lifted the pitcher..
  14. 17 Oct '08 16:39
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    And then, Maddon lifted the pitcher..
    And then David Ortiz got going . . .
  15. Standard member Phlabibit
    Mystic Meg
    17 Oct '08 17:06
    Originally posted by Arachnarchist
    And then David Ortiz got going . . .
    They could have used his bat last night in that 7-0 crush!

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