1. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    20 Feb '20 22:001 edit
    @russ said
    Surely you are not using Internet Explorer still though?
    I use to use firefox, now use chrome I like it...I was among the last among my little circle to get windows 10 wanted to wait until they had all the bugs out of it which they have now. I don't have any issues with it. Don't use it for banking though, from the old school and just don't trust it for doing banking stuff. Exception is my subscription, but have never had an issue with either card number I've given the site. Never get anything on my card I didn't actually purchase. So I think your site is pretty safe for transactions.

    -VR
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    21 Feb '20 18:52
    @russ said
    Also, there was this too (another "final" patch) :

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/01/27/windos_7_patch_me_baby_one_more_time/

    edit : Also, I'm curious why the resistance to moving to Windows 10? Now very mature and stable.
    Yeah.... tell that to my cow-orker, whose Windows XXX insisted on being updated in a seven-cycle process last night, and hasn't stopped claiming to need updating since.

    "Mature and stable"? Hah. More like "Strong and Stable".
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    @badradger said
    I have chrome, did try firefox but its not compatible with santanders security
    Time to switch banks.

    No, seriously. If they can't deal with that, they're not dealing with the security of your money.
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    @vartiovuori said
    In my experience, unless you have specialized needs, all programs you need either run on Linux or have good quality alternatives that do.
    The problem is, almost everyone has at least one specialised need.

    I mean, yeah, I could get along with OpenOffice, and I don't use Exploiter or Outhouse anyway, and NetHack probably runs better on Unixen than on Windows anyway, but....

    I use InDesign. A stand-alone, installed version of InDesign. I own that license, and I do not intend to pay several hundreds or upwards of a thousand euros for a new license for a Linux-compatble alternative. And please don't mention Scribus. It is not, even remotely, in any way, shape or form, professional software. Sorry, but no. It is not good enough. And yes, I've tried it. Several times. Not fit for purpose.
    As for Adobe's new, all-in-the-cloud, we-own-your-data-now, blackmail model - I won't even consider it.
    So that's one. I need my InDesign, for more than one purpose, and Linux has no alternatives.

    And then there's the program I use to run my chess club's internal competition. It runs on Windows. Frankly, I'm not even sure it runs on Windows 10 - it can handle at least XP and up to 7, but goodness knows what else. I should try, really. But at any rate, it runs on Windows.
    Mind you, there are several reasons why I'm starting to get rather dissatisfied with it, and sorely tempted to write an alternative myself. Still, for now, I need that program, and so does the rest of my club. And while we do, Linux simply cannot meet the demands we have.
  5. Subscribermlb62
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    22 Feb '20 01:46
    to put my doubts about Windows 10 simply.....I fear that Windows 10 will take "control" of my computer..Take many features OUT OF MY HANDS..and force the me to accept whatever Windows dictates..
  6. Green Boots Cave
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    @shallow-blue said
    The problem is, almost everyone has at least one specialised need.

    I mean, yeah, I could get along with OpenOffice, and I don't use Exploiter or Outhouse anyway, and NetHack probably runs better on Unixen than on Windows anyway, but....

    I use InDesign. A stand-alone, installed version of InDesign. I own that license, and I do not intend to pay several hundreds or u ...[text shortened]... ram, and so does the rest of my club. And while we do, Linux simply cannot meet the demands we have.
    Luckily, I don't need any special software.Most of the opensource software - firefox,Gimp,VLC media player ect - works really well for what I need and they are improving all the time.
    The way Adobe charge for InDesign and Photoshop ect makes a good argument for supporting Linux and opensource software.
    Have you considered trying Linux and windows 7 together (dual boot)?
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    @biffo-konker said
    The way Adobe charge for InDesign and Photoshop ect makes a good argument for supporting Linux and opensource software.
    It would indeed, be, if there were any freeware alternatives. As Scribus amply proves, there are not.
    [/quote]Have you considered trying Linux and windows 7 together (dual boot)?[/quote]
    As long as my Windows 7 computer simply works, I can't be arsed to make the effort. After all, why should I? What I have, works. What I could get, would only gratify the hippies in the FSF. They've never done anything for me - anything OS software has brought me, it did before that lot of profiteers were even born. I'd gain a lot of politics, and lose a lot of convenience. As usual with Linux on the desktopReveal Hidden Content
    Servers is another matter entirely, and even then !@#^@ GNU and hail POSIX
    . I just don't have the time.
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    @shallow-blue said
    The problem is, almost everyone has at least one specialised need.

    I mean, yeah, I could get along with OpenOffice, and I don't use Exploiter or Outhouse anyway, and NetHack probably runs better on Unixen than on Windows anyway, but....

    I use InDesign. A stand-alone, installed version of InDesign. I own that license, and I do not intend to pay several hundreds or u ...[text shortened]... ram, and so does the rest of my club. And while we do, Linux simply cannot meet the demands we have.
    That's entirely fair.

    Having said that, if you're interested in using Linux and those two applications are the only reason you won't, it might be worth trying to see how well they run in Wine. Of course, I mostly use Wine for games myself(as does, I suspect, the majority of its userbase), but in my experience Wine is rather good these days. AppDb suggests variable results for InDesign(depending on the version), but almost all of the submitted reports use long outdated versions of Wine.
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    26 Feb '20 14:45
    @shallow-blue said
    It would indeed, be, if there were any freeware alternatives. As Scribus amply proves, there are not.
    [/quote]Have you considered trying Linux and windows 7 together (dual boot)?[/quote]
    As long as my Windows 7 computer simply works, I can't be arsed to make the effort. After all, why should I? What I have, works. What I could get, would only gratify the hippies in the ...[text shortened]... nother matter entirely, and even then !@#^@ GNU and hail POSIX[/hidden]. I just don't have the time.
    Good luck!
    It would take a couple of hours,at most, to load linux on your win7 machine and run both OS systems. That's not much time compared with sorting out a computer with a virus due to no security updates.
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