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  1. 13 Sep '02 18:19
    Islanddoc v Miss Take # 97517
    Miss Take v Islanddoc # 97518 both games drawn

    3rd Game
    Miss Take v Islanddoc # 108318

    thanks
    Janey
  2. Donation vaknso
    The Ambassador
    14 Sep '02 03:01
    Thank you Janey,
    Game results and tiebreaker noted. Good luck to you and Ray.
    John
    Assistant Td Baker Invitational
  3. 17 Sep '02 08:39
    Ray is not moving, after the malicious, untrue and unbacked up
    allegations by Dave about me i don't blame him.
    It is obvious he does not trust me, i have deleted the tie break and
    will play only when Lyn and I both get proper apologies through the
    forum. We both live in different parts of the UK where a person's
    innocence is paramount. Dave is working on the assumption that if he
    throws enough mud some will stick, he is probably correct in his
    deliberate tactics. However i have never cheated by using a program
    or any other player to help me choose my moves, ever. I will continue
    in the KO when this is resolved to my satisfaction.
    All Dave will say is someone told him that i cheat, he won't say who, i
    have had messages telling me who that person is. That is why i am
    suspending play in this match.
    Thank you
    Jane
  4. 17 Sep '02 10:14
    Please have some consideration on the rest of the participants and
    not spoil the tournament for us.

    If you hold up the play, we won't be able to move on in the
    tournament.
  5. 17 Sep '02 11:39
    Don't you think that the tournament is death? All the major oponents
    in the ongoing conflict are playing in the tournament. If they don't
    come to an agreement I can't see how the tournament can continue in
    a normal way.
  6. Donation vaknso
    The Ambassador
    17 Sep '02 23:11
    John
    Assistant TD Baker Invitational
  7. Donation belgianfreak
    stitching you up
    19 Sep '02 10:02
    yes, we're still only in round 1 (and I'm taking time to try to win my tie
    breaker), but the tournament is still going strong. You say that all the
    major players are in the conflict, but I didn't join to play them - I
    joined to pit myself against people of my rank (1300's), and that's
    still working just fine.
  8. Donation vaknso
    The Ambassador
    19 Sep '02 14:14
    Thank you Belgianfreak.
    John
    Assistant TD Baker Invitational
  9. 19 Sep '02 16:12
    I didn't say that the major players are in the concflict, but that the
    people that are in conflict are (nearly) all playing in the tournament.
    And of course the tournament goes on for the moment, but what if
    schlieman has to play sintubin (only to take one exemple) in one of
    the next rounds?
  10. 19 Sep '02 17:36
    een van de twee zou doorgaan naar de volgende ronde, Joost. :-)
  11. 19 Sep '02 18:20
    OK, I hope so, I even hope the tournament can bring people back
    together again. Joost
    P.S.: Maybe you should have said this in English before some people
    thinks you pase some secret messages
  12. 19 Sep '02 18:24
    sorry, I must have beenn thinking we were messaging in our game. I
    translate literally:

    "one of the two would go through to the next round"
  13. Donation belgianfreak
    stitching you up
    19 Sep '02 19:53
    I must be getting better. I speak no Flemish, but by sounding the
    words in my head almost it almost correctly
    This living in Belgium must be rubbing off on me
  14. Donation belgianfreak
    stitching you up
    19 Sep '02 17:45
    sorry, I misread you. I see what your saying. But if people refuse to
    play in future rounds because of personal reasons then they forfeit
    and the tournament continues. Practically, the tournament loses no
    more than if the disagreements had started before hand and these
    people had never signed up.
    Most of the difficulties I see are for the director, who's already put
    enough work into this, and might now have to decide whether to keep
    handing out byes, or make repairings (maybe it's worth asking people
    to state now whether they are willing to continue through the
    tournament regardless of who they're paired with, or drop out before
    round 2 starts?)
    Maybe if 2 people on opposite "sides" were paired it could repair some
    of the damage when they gat back to playing chess - or maybe not...

    If any of this reads as aggressive or nasty in any way please just
    disregard it - I've had a REALLY bad week, not helped by a game
    losing stupid move earlier, and my tact centres probably aren't
    functioning
    Jon
  15. 19 Sep '02 19:26
    You say most of the difficulties are the tournament Director's, however
    All of the problems have been caused by untrue remarks made by
    Schliemann, accusing, without presenting any evidence, players of
    cheating.
    Who would benefit if those players withdrew?
    Who remains silent when a real man would apologize?
    WHO IS THE TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR?
    yours in Chess
    Janey