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  1. Standard member GalaxyShield
    Mr. Shield
    23 Sep '06 23:04
    Wow. I guess we shouldn't have anymore 7/0 tourneys.

    Tournament 36
  2. Standard member Ravello
    The Rude©
    24 Sep '06 00:25
    Originally posted by GalaxyShield
    Wow. I guess we shouldn't have anymore 7/0 tourneys.

    Tournament 36
    7 days torunaments are stupid and useless, they never end and I laugh even more when I see loads of new tournaments created with 14 days timebank..............
    The only tournament I played with that timeout lasted two years.......

    I know that people can't be always online, they do business trips, go on holidays and all that jazz, but a tournament lasting years is just plain silly.
  3. Standard member flexmore
    Quack Quack Quack !
    24 Sep '06 02:36 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Ravello
    7 days torunaments are stupid and useless, they never end and I laugh even more when I see loads of new tournaments created with 14 days timebank..............
    The only tournament I played with that timeout lasted two years.......

    I know that people can't be always online, they do business trips, go on holidays and all that jazz, but a tournament lasting years is just plain silly.
    you have played here for years ... you know that a 7 day timout is a very long game ....

    you should also know that a 14 day timeBANK does not mean a long game ...

    it is the timeout which makes a game long - letting people delay on every move.
    it is the timebank which gives players one chance in a game to delay while they take one holiday.
  4. Standard member caissad4
    Child of the Novelty
    24 Sep '06 02:41
    Originally posted by GalaxyShield
    Wow. I guess we shouldn't have anymore 7/0 tourneys.

    Tournament 36
    We should have nothing but banded tourneys.
    All other types should be considered evil and even the slightest mention of them should be met with shunning.
    Variety in tourney types will only encourage the presence of the Evil One (whoever that is).
    And further, all those who enjoy playing games which may last a very long time will be sent to re-education centers til they learn the fundamental correctness
    of only enjoying games which the majority deem enjoyable.
    Variety is bad.

    (Just kidding)
  5. Standard member flexmore
    Quack Quack Quack !
    24 Sep '06 03:02
    Originally posted by GalaxyShield
    Wow. I guess we shouldn't have anymore 7/0 tourneys.

    Tournament 36
    how about you have a look at :

    Tournaments>InProgress

    Then slide down and choose the largest page number available ... currently page 19

    you will see the slowest styles.
  6. Standard member flexmore
    Quack Quack Quack !
    24 Sep '06 03:39 / 1 edit
    have a look at the awesome struggle between David G and koen in Tournament 215, it has been going on for ages, and is set to go on a little longer yet ....

    it is banded to 1799, they are both just under that rating, they have played a duel and drawn, now another is under way - maybe a third soon ...

    what a match!
  7. Standard member Ravello
    The Rude©
    24 Sep '06 23:56
    Originally posted by flexmore
    you have played here for years ... you know that a 7 day timout is a very long game .....
    I entered the 7 days t/o tournament in february 2004 and from that day I stayed away from 7 days tournaments like leper.

    7 days t/o is a very long game, a 7 days t/o + 14 days t/b is a dead long game.
  8. Standard member XanthosNZ
    Cancerous Bus Crash
    25 Sep '06 06:53
    Originally posted by Ravello
    I entered the 7 days t/o tournament in february 2004 and from that day I stayed away from 7 days tournaments like leper.

    7 days t/o is a very long game, a 7 days t/o + 14 days t/b is a dead long game.
    Actually a 7/14 game will only be 14 days longer than a 7/0 game. Did you play in the From Gambit tournament? It is a 1/14 duel that started almost exactly a year ago. We are currently in the 7th round. Now are you going to argue that that is too slow?
  9. 25 Sep '06 14:29
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    Actually a 7/14 game will only be 14 days longer than a 7/0 game. Did you play in the From Gambit tournament? It is a 1/14 duel that started almost exactly a year ago. We are currently in the 7th round. Now are you going to argue that that is too slow?
    Mathematicaly:

    In a 7/14 time control, a 30 moves game can last up to 448 days.

    In a 1/14 time control, a 30 moves game can last up to 74 days.
  10. 25 Sep '06 15:00
    Originally posted by flexmore
    have a look at the awesome struggle between David G and koen in Tournament 215, it has been going on for ages, and is set to go on a little longer yet ....

    it is banded to 1799, they are both just under that rating, they have played a duel and drawn, now another is under way - maybe a third soon ...

    what a match!
    That is amazing. 5 rounds at 7/0 seems highly likely. It's also funny to see no1maurader and caissida in that band (and losing).
  11. Standard member flexmore
    Quack Quack Quack !
    25 Sep '06 16:28
    Originally posted by zebano
    That is amazing. 5 rounds at 7/0 seems highly likely. It's also funny to see no1maurader and caissida in that band (and losing).
    oh no - its not 7/0, it is 3/14 - so it is heaps faster ...
  12. Standard member flexmore
    Quack Quack Quack !
    25 Sep '06 16:41 / 17 edits
    Originally posted by angiardini
    Mathematicaly:

    In a 7/14 time control, a 30 moves game can last up to 448 days.

    In a 1/14 time control, a 30 moves game can last up to 74 days.
    0 timeout and 0 timebank gives 0 days
    0 timeout and 3 timebank gives 6 days
    0 timeout and 7 timebank gives 14 days
    0 timeout and 14 timebank gives 28 days
    0 timeout and 21 timebank gives 42 days
    0 timeout and 28 timebank gives 56 days
    1 timeout and 0 timebank gives 60 days
    1 timeout and 3 timebank gives 66 days
    1 timeout and 7 timebank gives 74 days
    1 timeout and 14 timebank gives 88 days
    1 timeout and 21 timebank gives 102 days
    1 timeout and 28 timebank gives 116 days
    0 timeout and 60 timebank gives 120 days
    1 timeout and 35 timebank gives 130 days
    1 timeout and 42 timebank gives 144 days
    1 timeout and 49 timebank gives 158 days
    0 timeout and 80 timebank gives 160 days
    1 timeout and 56 timebank gives 172 days hint, hint Russ
    3 timeout and 0 timebank gives 180 days

    1 timeout and 63 timebank gives 186 days
    3 timeout and 3 timebank gives 186 days
    3 timeout and 7 timebank gives 194 days
    1 timeout and 70 timebank gives 200 days
    3 timeout and 14 timebank gives 208 days
    1 timeout and 77 timebank gives 214 days
    3 timeout and 21 timebank gives 222 days
    3 timeout and 28 timebank gives 236 days
    1 timeout and 100 timebank gives 260 days
    7 timeout and 0 timebank gives 420 days

    7 timeout and 3 timebank gives 426 days
    7 timeout and 7 timebank gives 434 days
    7 timeout and 14 timebank gives 448 days
    7 timeout and 21 timebank gives 462 days
    7 timeout and 28 timebank gives 476 days
    1 timeout and 300 timebank gives 660 days
    14 timeout and 0 timebank gives 840 days

    14 timeout and 3 timebank gives 846 days
    14 timeout and 7 timebank gives 854 days
    14 timeout and 14 timebank gives 868 days
    14 timeout and 21 timebank gives 882 days
    14 timeout and 28 timebank gives 896 days
    21 timeout and 0 timebank gives 1260 days
    21 timeout and 3 timebank gives 1266 days
    21 timeout and 7 timebank gives 1274 days
    21 timeout and 14 timebank gives 1288 days
    21 timeout and 21 timebank gives 1302 days
    21 timeout and 28 timebank gives 1316 days


    my impression from here is : if players are really concerned about not being timed out and prepared to take some time, but want the tournament to keep moving as fast as it can .... then give them a huge timebank - do not increase the timeout.
  13. Standard member Ravello
    The Rude©
    26 Sep '06 01:44 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    Now are you going to argue that that is too slow?
    7 rounds in a year are very fast, I don't know why I should argue it.

    I say that I don't like 7/14, I wasn't talking about the 1/14 of the From Gambit tournament (which is also a duel, and duels are faster than grouped ones))

    Enter some 7/14 grouped random and let me know when it finishes..........

    Edit: angiardini's post is perfect : a 7 t/o game can last 7 times longer than a 1 t/o game
    Now are you going to argue that?
  14. Standard member XanthosNZ
    Cancerous Bus Crash
    26 Sep '06 06:16
    Originally posted by Ravello
    7 rounds in a year are very fast, I don't know why I should argue it.

    I say that I don't like 7/14, I wasn't talking about the 1/14 of the From Gambit tournament (which is also a duel, and duels are faster than grouped ones))

    Enter some 7/14 grouped random and let me know when it finishes..........

    Edit: angiardini's post is perfect : a 7 t/o game can last 7 times longer than a 1 t/o game
    Now are you going to argue that?
    Of course not, that's obvious. However you said "7 days t/o is a very long game, a 7 days t/o + 14 days t/b is a dead long game" indicating there is some significant difference between the two.