@spruce112358 said
And yet a sweeping generalization falls with one counter-example.

EDIT: They are forced immediately into a "No True Scotsman" fallacy.

One know this, why are you hassling over it?

they didn't ever said absolutely all muslims cut heads all the time so you counter it "look, one muslim managed to go through an entire dinner without cutting MY head"

common man

"EDIT: They are forced immediately into a "No True Scotsman" fallacy."
you think they are forced to anything just because you talked about a dinner you had one afternoon with one muslim family?

"One know this, why are you hassling over it?"
why do you think i am hassling you? you used an anecdote to prove a point i told you it's wrong. i finally have someone normal to talk to on this forum, why are you hassling ME?

@kevcvs57 said
Joe and mott they say it all the time

yeah that's why i assumed this is another instance of them intentionally misquoting some de-fund police activist. sadly the moron in question actually said it

@spruce112358 said
Well, I often prefer anecdotes to sweeping generalizations.

For one thing, the anecdotes I relate are true.

But generalizations…?

So there’s that. I guess it’s what you like.

you used an anecdote precisely to make a sweeping generalization, as a response to his idiotic statement "if they were your neighbours they would cut off your head" or whatever dumb excrement he said.
it's not a matter of preference it's how you debate a point.

the jerkwads use anecdotes too to make the opposite argument. Islam is a religion of hate because a couple of thousands out of more than a billion blow stuff up.

In this case you don't have to prove a billion people aren't hateful, the burden of proof is on them.

@spruce112358 said
So, I used to live next to a Saudi in Vienna. He worked at the Embassy.

His children used to play in our small yard. They climbed our trees.

When I dined at his table, they served a lot of fruit. They were very friendly. The smell in their home was of cardamom. He did not wear robes and was not smelly.

He did not kill any homosexuals in my presence.

SO WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?

don't engage in anecdotes. it weakens your point.

his point is moronic and is not made less so because you had dinner with a muslim.

there are more than a billion muslims in the world, living their lives in peace, in democratic muslim countries. More than a billion muslims with varying degrees of religiosity, just like there are christians who have never stepped foot in a church in decades and there are christians who send death threats to planned parenthood doctors and nurses.

The reason why there are more muslim terrorists than christian terrorists is not because islam is full of hatred it's because it's really easy to recruit someone when they lost their entire family in a bomb dropped by a drone. When they are starving because of a siege or economic sanctions.

@spruce112358 said
She did. She jumps the shark a bit.

https://www.shahanafrombk.com/safety

Of course, it would be wonderful if we did NOT need a police force - how great would that be? If no one ever violated anyone else's rights and was always reasonable in resolving their differences, that would be perfect and we wouldn't need police at all.

I think it is an aspirational goal t ...[text shortened]... t effectively and perhaps one would see the police, if not abolished, then at least greatly reduced.

oh i don't click on garbage links from members of the club. the fraternity of the moronic.

yes, there are plenty of weirdos saying dumb things and these losers take that to paint all who call for defunding the police with the same brush. Old tactic.


Defunding the police means not spending money on gear that would be adequate to invade a country. It means spending more money on training. It means increasing budgets on social workers and psychologists, so that police officers don't shoot deranged individuals that just had a bad day or be called to domestic altercations.


This person should fire her campaign manager because they are an idiot as is she for listening. It's hard enough having to explain what i wrote in the previous paragraph to morons who think defund means abolish.

@spruce112358 said
With all due respect, I don't think that's the reason...

I could be mistaken, but my instincts tell me it is something else.

For instance, he's mortally afraid of Islam. He thinks it is going to spread and 'get him,' so Israel is literally a bulwark, stopping the flood. He mentioned that.

For me, having worked with Muslims, talked with Muslims about Islam (it al ...[text shortened]... ed a coup in Trinidad. Doesn't seem like it lasted very long. I wonder if that is all that happened.

"For instance, he's mortally afraid of Islam. He thinks it is going to spread and 'get him,' so Israel is literally a bulwark, stopping the flood. He mentioned that."
often, hate and fear go hand in hand.

"For me, having worked with Muslims, talked with Muslims about Islam (it always comes up) and visited Muslim countries (Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Indonesia), I don't find Muslims scary at all."
good people don't need to be exposed to certain groups to cure them of their hate. did you hate muslims before traveling to those countries?

"But Rajk999 mentioned a coup in Trinidad. Doesn't seem like it lasted very long. I wonder if that is all that happened."
don't know what the relevance of that is. to be fair he mentioned a lot of things, none of which justify "nobody in Gaza is innocent" or "everybody who died deserved to die because some palestinians voted for hamas sometime ago or other palestinians shout death to jews"

There are israelis who shout "palestinians must die" as well. A minister said at some point they should turn Gaza into a parking lot. Another official said they are fighting human animals. Would any of these be acceptable reasons to say the 1200 israelis deserved to die?

We got morally outraged because 1200 israelis died on october 7th. We got morally outraged that 7 westerners died from world central kitchen. We shouted "je suis Charlie".

Where is the outrage for 40000 palestinian deaths? Is this the exchange rate for human life? How many palestinians must die? This animal says no amount of palestinians deaths is too much as long as Hamas still exists.

i am curious who ever said "abolish police"

@averagejoe1 said
Z just exemplifies how beautiful it is that THEY are bringing THERE HERE. wonder what his point is. He may know something that we don’t.
Why do they like HERE so much. I know of no person who plans to travel to, or, god forbid, Live In, Romania.
Anybody here got an object in their house from Romania? Hey Z, is your place cluttered with Made In The USA? (Too many emojis for that…….)

go get the raid spray, they are SWARMING!!

buzz buzz, ashole

@spruce112358 said
Thanks for the concern. I appreciate it.

It's really important to Rajk999 on this issue to state THIS IS THE WAY IT IS - no debate, no discussion. It's bound up in his identity and super important to him. He NEEDS it to be this way and to hear himself say it over and over.

I still wonder, why? Maybe that's the next question to ask...

i know why. he is a hateful prick who doesn't see Palestinians as actual human beings. "there are no innocents in gaza" is where debate ends

what argument could one hope to give after that. It's an exercise in futility. it gives me a modicum of pleasure to express my disgust at what scum he is just to vent my frustration this is happening and i am powerless to stop it

@spruce112358 said
This seems to be your entire argument: "Might makes right."

I doubt many agree with you.

you're arguing with someone that lists historical reasons why children born in 2010 and after deserve to die. Including "because a tribe settled there 4000 years ago"

Not saying you shouldn't, just making an obvious statement

@averagejoe1 said
14,000 of 36,000 students at COLUMBIA are On Foreign Visas. And know that this is not about the Jews. The Jews are but a vehicle for bigger fish to fry. Soros is not about the Jews.
Would you rather have Trump handle our futures, or Biden handle our futures.
36k. Of which 14k are smelly foreigners. I think I will go take a bath. I do not understand. (Just giving Suepersonguy an opening to say ‘right, you don’t understand.)
Does anyone understand?

SWARMING!! BUZZ BUZZ BUZZ

@rajk999 said
I answered that question many times before. My answer has not changed. Its NO. I do not care about any reason.

I feel sorry for people who die, and they tried to live, they wanted to live, they enjoyed a life of peace and happiness, they were good decent people. Those deaths I would wonder why they died.

Gaza residents do not quality for my pity or concern. They pra ...[text shortened]... starvation... those I am sorry for and wish I had the power to help... 10,000 of them were children.

"I do not care about any reason."
there it is. The proof of your inhumanity

"Gaza residents do not quality for my pity or concern. They pray for the death of Jews. They rejoice when Jews are killed. They teach their children in schools to kill Jews. They are an evil and damaged people. I have no pity, man woman or children who rejoice, dance and celebrate the death of others."
what is there more to say. You don't argue with a rabid dog.

Don't worry, i won't judge all christians because of how garbage you are. or whatever the fuk ethnicity you belong to.

There is little difference between you and those Palestinians that shout death to jews except that they have an excuse of watching their loved ones die at the hand of some jews. Watch enough death, lose enough family and it will turn you evil most of times.

What's your excuse you pathetic worm?

@shavixmir said
Yes, you dumb fukk. That just doesn’t give anyone the right to flaunt international law.

Netanyahoo and his cronies are going to be summoned with arrest warrants by the international court of justice. Just wait and see.

It’s fukking attrocious what’s going on iver there. And you can’t just sit back and do nothing. I’m sure someone Jewish once coined that very same bloody phrase.

in your dreams. (and mine)

Netanyahu will receive a Nobel peace prize when he finally stops this massacre (probably because a US president will tell him privately to stop). He will be praised for being so brave and peace loving.

@mott-the-hoople said
“are jobs no american would want. ”

I keep hearing that, show me some proof of an American saying they don’t want these jobs.

To hear you libs, one would think we were all on starvation and doing without before these illegals came along. show your proof.

"I keep hearing that, show me some proof of an American saying they don’t want these jobs."
The fact that they are filled by immigrants, dumbass

Do you think these employers are intentionally turning away americans? Are you this moronic?

The US is trying to establish a hip new trend: if someone is accused of something, we ask nicely that someone to tell us if they are guilty or not.

YouTube&ab_channel=AlMayadeenEnglish

"How does it ever make sense that the #UnitedStates asks the accused party to examine itself and provide reports," said a reporter, cornering #US State Department Spokesperson Vedant Patel during a press briefing.

The White House said on Wednesday it wanted "answers" from Israeli authorities after the discovery of mass graves at two Gaza hospitals destroyed during Israeli sieges.

In more details, Gaza's Civil Defense agency said health workers uncovered at least 392 decomposing bodies of people killed and buried by Israeli occupation forces at the Nasser Medical Complex in Khan Younis following their withdrawal from the medical facility.

Additionally, around 30 bodies were found buried in two graves in the Al-Shifa Hospital courtyard in #Gaza City.