@suzianne said
This is fair, since they caused a fly-by-night company to come into Phoenix to ostensibly perform an audit on the voting machines (which found zero impropriety, by the way), and in the process, they rendered those machines unable to be trusted in future elections, so the State of Arizona had to pay to have them ALL replaced, to the tune of millions of dollars.

A case of the cure being worse than the disease.



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@sonhouse said
Indicted along with some 11 others in the fake elector scheme.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/24/arizona-election-indictments-giuliani-meadows-trump-00154241

Right wingers can cheer (for now), your god Trump is named co-conspirator UN indicted, that is unless Rudy or Mark flip, since Rudy knows where ALL the bodies are buried.

That is also why Trump has not s ...[text shortened]... es are buried so God Trump does not want to rile Davy. Anyone else is fair game but not buddy Davy.

Let's hope that the prospect of prison sentences for perjury awakens in the defendants a sense of decency, stronger than their hope that if Trump gets back into power, he'll pardon them.







( PS Presidential pardons work only in federal cases, not state cases.)

@mchill said
I still don't understand what his supporters see in him. He's a convicted fraudster, lifelong womanizer who fathered 5 children by 3 different ladies (not including the illegitimate ones) a tax and payroll cheat who doesn't pay his employees and respects only dictators of other countries.

Nikki Haley could easily defeat Joe Biden, yet his supporters stand by him, and believe all his lies as if they were listening to God himself. I don't get it. 🙄

Millions of Americans are angry and feel they've been cheated out of something they can't name. I can name it for them: The American Dream. It was supposed to happen and it didn't. If you worked hard, you were supposed to get a washing machine, a chicken in every pot, a two-car garage, a digital watch, and the world's highest standard of living. But it didn't make them happy, and so they feel they've been cheated out of a birthright. They haven't read their sacred documents carefully: it says "the pursuit of happiness" not the attainment of it. So, in America today, there are millions of people who feel they should be happy, because they think this was promised to them (it wasn't), and they're angry about it. Someody must be to blame! Now who could that be ?? The two main culprits are: goobermint (over-regulation), and immigrants (stealing our benefits).

Trump embodies for those millions of Americans the lost American dream: he's fabulously wealthy (or seems to be anyway, but, really, he's living on other bank's credit); he's the poster boy for angry entitlement; and he routinely bashes 'the establishment' (goobermint) and immigrants. That's his recipe for popularity.

@kewpie said
Phranny regularly starts threads with an article written by Heather Cox Richardson, and normally attributes the article. Obviously a simple oversight in this case, as all regular readers would know.
Try voicing "phranny" and the first name that comes to mind is Fran, Frances (female names) and Francis (male name) so it's not certain that the poster is female, but given the p ...[text shortened]... ther posters civilly and refuse to engage in rubbish posting - that's adult behaviour. Over to you.

that's adult behaviour

The male of the species grows up until age 8; after that, it just gets bigger.



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@mlb62


"Ghost" is an infelicitous choice of words, because it suggests to most people the immaterial remnant of a once-embodied personality (something like 'Nearly Headless Nick' in Harry Potter). "Holy spirit" is a slightly better formulation insofar as one takes the word "spirit" as in "the spirit, rather than the letter, of the law." In Christian theology (don't ask me to quote the Bible here because Christian theology was formulated long after the gospels were canonized) the Holy Spirit is wholly abstract, not any sort of personality. Think of Plotinus ... think of Parmenides's The One ... Think of Plato's Forms ... it is no accident that I am referring you to Greek philosophers, because that is who early Christian theologians (Origen et al) based Christian theology on too. Without Greek philosophy, there would be no Christian theology. Think of a wholly de-personalized power indwelling in a person who has faith.

@divegeester said
Who is this person who will “waltz in”?
“Waltz in” to where, when?
What are you on about?

The Jesus I believe in is the one described in the Bible.

I believe he is referring to the anti-Christ.

@suzianne said
I think it is rather obvious who the female posters are.

And no, it's not the names or the avatars themselves, it is how they communicate. Of course, this also confuses the members of the "He-Man Women Haters Club". There are people on this very website who have told me that women should be seen and not heard.

Presumably, these people also drive huge pickup trucks.

... with gun racks in the rear window ....

@phranny said
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/04/23/immigration-jobs-economy/

Behind a paywall, no can do.

I can't speak for America, but where I live, the native population cannot supply the needs of the local economy. I'm not talking about back-breaking dumb labor (fruit pickers) either. In the medical industry here, fully half the doctors and nurses are non-natives. Universities simply cannot educate enough people. I suppose it is similar in many other countries.

@phranny said
For everyone's information I identify as "she". For those of you who are LBGQT phobic, "female" is also on my birth certificate. None of this should matter.

So noted. Not always easy to tell from people's screen names or avatars.

For the record, I self-identify as h.saps awaiting first alien contact.

"Beam me up, Scotty !


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@phranny said
Why we hate him? He has been taped proudly saying he loves grabbing women by the pussy. He has been convicted of rape. He once said, also taped, that if his daughter were not his daughter, he's like to have sex with her. And then there is the fake charity, the workers he refused to pay. He stole classified documents that belong to our government, not Trump. The list is so lo ...[text shortened]... ur allies respect him while they laughed at Trump, and he is trying to deal with a climate disaster.

I do not hate Trump; I just think he is unfit to be the leader of the world's showcase democracy and soon-to-be-second-greatest economy.

@Mott

"He has been convicted of rape."
straight up lie

It's not that simple, Mott.

Did Trump rape her? The answer has to do with what "rape" means in the jurisdiction concerned.

She claims he penetrated her, and not only with his finger. However, the jury was not satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that penetration with something other than a finger occurred. Penetration with a finger would constitute rape in many other jurisdictions.

"Sexual assault" was proved beyond a reasonable doubt.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/01/29/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll/72295009007/

@sonhouse said
@Suzianne
The one thing I see is the possibility after such defeat is what kind of monster will take Putin's place? Or will democracy rise up in Russia like it should?

Before you rejoice at the fall of a dictator, make sure that comes after him is not worse. Remember what came after Saddam Hussein?

@Phranny

Trump is a pathological liar. It is hardly surprising that he lies about his trials, too. The prosecution will have a field day if he takes the stand.

I'm researching nudist colonies; bare with me.

@suzianne said
Let's hope so.

Ms. Lake's lawsuit was denied every step of the way, but she didn't care, she just kept pushing up to the next court.

Let's also hope her supporters are tired of throwing their money away on idiotic lawsuits.

It's phishing. One more example of how Republican'ts are trying to stay in power, despite their shrinking mandate in the general population. Stay alert there, Americans! -- democracy is being legislated away, inch by inch.