1. The Smoke
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    15 Jun '09 23:45
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    Sigh. It would help if you read my posts more carefully.

    It's that the rating change is totally unfair. If I lose to Mr. 1000, I lose 32 points or more. If I win, I get zero.
    Sigh, indeed. Finally, we got to the very gist of this - it's about points.. oh well.. then I see your point..
  2. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    16 Jun '09 00:09
    Originally posted by adramforall
    Entry to [b]banded tournaments should be prevented unless players are within say 100 points of the lower entry limit.

    There should be an auto facilitity in place to remove players from unstarted tournaments, if their rating drops below the entry limits.

    This should prevent most cases, but will not stop ratings drops after a tournaments has started.[/b]
    Rec'd. As for the last case you mentioned, the answer is simple: rating floors.
  3. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    16 Jun '09 00:11
    Originally posted by Renars
    Sigh, indeed. Finally, we got to the very gist of this - it's about points.. oh well.. then I see your point..
    Well, it's not like we play for $$ here. 😵
  4. Here
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    16 Jun '09 06:02
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    In other words, "I don't really care what happens to anyone else, as long as the problem is fixed for me." 🙄
    So you lose 32 points.In the meantime he could win a load of tournaments he was not really entitled to enter .
    Which is worse ?
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    16 Jun '09 07:382 edits
    This only makes dropping games half as effective from days 101-356.

    A person can still drop a bunch of games and enter tournaments he should be rated too high for. Someone could still drop from 2000 to 900 and enter 1400 banded tourneys. This really doesn't effect the sandbagging problem at all.
  6. Here
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    16 Jun '09 13:29
    Originally posted by Jasen777
    This only makes dropping games half as effective from days 101-356.

    A person can still drop a bunch of games and enter tournaments he should be rated too high for. Someone could still drop from 2000 to 900 and enter 1400 banded tourneys. This really doesn't effect the sandbagging problem at all.
    Not for 365 days he can't ( can't go below 100 of his highest points )
  7. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    16 Jun '09 16:55
    Originally posted by padger
    So you lose 32 points.In the meantime he could win a load of tournaments he was not really entitled to enter .
    Which is worse ?
    Not only do I lose 32 points, but lots of other people in the tourney do, too.

    Both scenarios are equally bad.
  8. Here
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    17 Jun '09 05:55
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    Not only do I lose 32 points, but lots of other people in the tourney do, too.

    Both scenarios are equally bad.
    So you admit he would be a lot better than his rating which proves the point
  9. SubscriberMctayto
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    17 Jun '09 12:45
    Originally posted by Russ
    The number of days considered when calculating the "Tournament Entry Rating" has been increased to 365 days, from 100, to help prevent "sandbagging" in tournaments.

    The Tournament Entry Rating for every player is available from the profile page, as before.
    I understand the reasoning but feel a sledge hammer used to crack a nut. Bad news as far as I am concerned.
  10. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    17 Jun '09 16:171 edit
    Originally posted by padger
    So you admit he would be a lot better than his rating which proves the point
    Huh?

    My first post in this thread called attention to the problem of underrated players in high-band tourneys. I have 'admitted' this from the start, since it proves my point.
  11. Here
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    18 Jun '09 06:051 edit
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    Huh?

    My first post in this thread called attention to the problem of underrated players in high-band tourneys. I have 'admitted' this from the start, since it proves [b]my
    point.[/b]
    Perhaps ratings should be done using the new formula this would address your concerns and fix the T E R at the same time.
    It would certainly help in Clan Challenges
  12. UK
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    18 Jun '09 12:49
    Originally posted by adramforall
    Entry to [b]banded tournaments should be prevented unless players are within say 100 points of the lower entry limit.

    [/b]
    Exactly. This would not be hard to achieve.

    If someone's rating is dramatically different to their TER then the system should not allow them to enter banded tournies.

    Simples.
  13. Standard memberAiko
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    19 Jun '09 14:47
    Can't we use those new profile statistic data for tournament entry, like the average rating over a certain periode (say, last year)?
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