@DTH said@DTH
@Wycombe-Al
Like this idea ... players with lower ratings enjoy competition too. Plus, some clans (like ours) only have 1 or 2 higher rating players and would like to give more action to their lower ranking clan mates.
You have 13 players in your clan, why not work a little harder building your clan so you can actually compete!! It takes work to win a Championship, all this is giving someone a cup for playing 50 games??? I don't see any logic in it what so ever. Just because you don't like playing a lot of games you now want your own prize for playing less games!!!
I can only assume you were one of the Clan leaders involved in this little scheme before it was even suggested in the forum.
-VR
@Very-Rusty saidIt was would benefit the entire site and clan system.
NO, He wants to add something that would be a benefit for People like yourself who don't play a lot of games, what the Hell 50 Games to win a cup??? That my old friend is B.S.!!!
Yes, in fact I am having my coffee now. I just don't like a few people getting together figuring a way that they can win something every year!!!!
-VR
But since you can't read, he said 1200 games.
I wouldn't even have as many as that. Straight knockout, 1 clan challenge, winners progress to the final of the clan challenge cup.
5/6 matchups in each challenge.
Hell, it could be ran without the need for Russ to do anything. Just among clan leaders.
Anyway, I believe Bish will form a team capable of winning the regular 2026 clan championship.
@A-Unique-Nickname saidIf you think Bish can win, do you have a plan for that too?
It was would benefit the entire site and clan system.
But since you can't read, he said 1200 games.
I wouldn't even have as many as that. Straight knockout, 1 clan challenge, winners progress to the final of the clan challenge cup.
5/6 matchups in each challenge.
Hell, it could be ran without the need for Russ to do anything. Just among clan leaders.
Anyway, I believe Bish will form a team capable of winning the regular 2026 clan championship.
He was the one that said 50 games not 1200 as you said.
If you and he thinks he can win the clan championship do you have a plan in place to feed him points, because that is about the only way I see it happening.
You guys are going to mess up the Clan Challenges!!! Well Done!!!!
All you are doing is trying to find a way to win something without having to put the work in from the way I see it. Combining the little clans into a bigger Clan would make a lot more sense.
You have the same clans playing each other each year. Why are you people afraid to play more games, and want to set up rules that will allow you to play less games each year. You can't start forcing clans to play each other either, you will have people quitting if you even try that.
-VR
@Very-Rusty saidHere is the quote from my original post
If you think Bish can win, do you have a plan for that too?
He was the one that said 50 games not 1200 as you said.
If you and he thinks he can win the clan championship do you have a plan in place to feed him points, because that is about the only way I see it happening.
You guys are going to mess up the Clan Challenges!!! Well Done!!!!
All you are doing is tr ...[text shortened]... forcing clans to play each other either, you will have people quitting if you even try that.
-VR
"How many clan games in the cup? For the sake of the math here, let's say 1200. This is variable and can be decided together."
Here is the topic sentence - again from the original post.
"I propose creating a second clan competition in 2026, a Cup, which would be fun for clan leaders and players and might lead to increased interest and activity in the clan feature."
Its just an idea (albeit a really good one) . Maybe we can stick to ideas and not personalities. It doesn't matter who suggested it.
@venda saidThis is very True Dave, I don't think the Clan leaders who discussed this before presenting it even thought about. Good Call on that!
Not all clans will have a player in the different ranges either
We know they are trying to find a way they can win something. I don't know how many clans are involved, but I assume Bish was in conversation with the Clan leaders who have posted in here. All a pre-planned scheme to try and win something and not have to play a lot of games doing it.
None of the aforementioned leaders who had a piece to say in this Thread thought about trying to make a stronger Clan. I play in the Greeters Games, and there are many players there that would great for Clans, it would be just to work on getting them to become subscribers. Of course that would take WORK!!!!
-VR
@Very-Rusty saidNormally I would leave this alone. But it offends on too many levels.
@DTH
You have 13 players in your clan, why not work a little harder building your clan so you can actually compete!! It takes work to win a Championship, all this is giving someone a cup for playing 50 games??? I don't see any logic in it what so ever. Just because you don't like playing a lot of games you now want your own prize for playing less games!!!
...[text shortened]... of the Clan leaders involved in this little scheme before it was even suggested in the forum.
-VR
1. How dare you attack @DTH for just responding to an idea in the clan forum. The forum was created for that exact purpose - for players to respond to ideas. He is a solid clan leader and active member of this site we are all trying to promote. Not a good look in my opinion.
2. I have been discussing this idea with exactly two clan leaders before posting here. And you know that. Because they are the two clan leaders who might be the most affected - as they develop strategies to win the 2026 overall Net Points title. I have zero desire to get in the way of those leaders' aims and goals. I have told them that and asked them how we can create this with minimal disruption to the current system. I have tried to assimilate their feedback into the proposal.
While we have not agreed on a lot - both leaders have been both generous with their time and very respectful.
The post that was quoted here has been removedDo you think name calling helps you in anyway Trevor?
Chill, I don't agree with it as you guys concocted a scheme in how you could win something, that is all this is about not trying to REALLY improve the Clan System, just give you guys who don't want to put the hard work in to it, something you can win.
-VR
@Bish saidI am sure it was more than two leaders, and you are all on the same page, you don't want to put the work in too win a Clan Championships so want to make another section where you can at least win Something.
Normally I would leave this alone. But it offends on too many levels.
1. How dare you attack @DTH for just responding to an idea in the clan forum. The forum was created for that exact purpose - for players to respond to ideas. He is a solid clan leader and active member of this site we are all trying to promote. Not a good look in my opinion.
2. I have been discussing t ...[text shortened]... have not agreed on a lot - both leaders have been both generous with their time and very respectful.
You are not trying to IMPROVE the Clan system you are trying to win something for yourself which is very obvious.
BTW: Don't try scolding me as I been on this Site paying my dues every year for 18 going on 19 years. I am going to have my say and say what I believe whether you Sir, like it or not!!!
I am not really concerned about you being offended because I speak my mind and don't follow the herd, Bish!
-VR
@Very-Rusty saidWould it be fair to say you dislike anything new?
I don't like it, I believe it would be the same Clans involved each year. I am going to advise my Clan leader not to get involved. What he does of course is entirely up to him. I don't think their should be two divisions.
I believe everyone should play everyone else as it now is done. Why make extra work for Russ, because you want to be able to say you won something?? ...[text shortened]... ar if you want to take into consideration my other challenges a hell of a lot more than that.
-VR
And here, you appear to have dropped your rattle.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidGoad,
Would it be fair to say you dislike anything new?
And here, you appear to have dropped your rattle.
You can keep your rattle. I don't like things where Clan Leader get together to scheme a way to win something without having to put in the hard work for it.
Improve their clans get stronger and actually COMPETE!!!!
You're Childish insults are becoming very BORING!!!
I assume you are in favor, well that is the reason you are trying to attack me. Ghost you really are of no concern to me, you stay with the herd, boot me out of your Club if you want, I really don't care. You are showing your real colors.
Not even Pretending to be a nice guy now, Strange indeed.
You should get thumbs up from your co- Conspirators!
YUP, 3 Already as expected, and counting.
-VR
@DTH said@DTH,
Each endeavor involves both the journey and the destination. Members of our clan savor the former . . . by your reaction it seems you are committed to the latter. Very sorry to have raised your hackles with my response.
😞
There is no need to apologize. I speak my mind and believe what I believe Sir. If I don't agree with something I am going to let it be known. I don't shy away from any controversy and never have.
No hard feelings, just speaking my mind is all. I know I can be quite blunt, no one ever said there was anything subtle about me. I say it like I see it.
Have a Great Day! Peace Out.
-VR