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    24 Aug '18 14:37
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    It's not a measure of the best clan.
    A clan that loses twice as often as it wins could conceivably finish ahead of a clan that wins twice as often as it loses.
    That doesn't make sense.

    But a clan that plays only 6 challenges in an entire year and wins them all won't finish at the top of the table either.

    The current system, while not perfect, does strike a reasonable balance.
    But the clan that plays the most wins now so what is the difference ?
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    24 Aug '18 15:18
    let's face this one reality
    no matter what rules are in place, Metallica would win
    but I think that gross points would eliminate some of the problems and stimulate more activity
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    24 Aug '18 15:471 edit
    Originally posted by @padger
    But the clan that plays the most wins now so what is the difference ?
    There is a difference.
    Current system in place represents a combination of the 2 philosophies.
    1 - a clan has to have a good winning record.
    2 - a clan has to play often enough to be deserving of a title.

    By way of example, you can sort the clan table by gross points.
    You will find that the last place clan losing nearly twice as much as they win is now on the first page.

    Net points system represents a balance.
    That's all I am saying.

    If you keep pointing to Metallica as an example, then you are making this about Metallica.

    This is nothing new to us.
    Knock yourself out. 🙂
  4. santa cruz, ca.
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    24 Aug '18 23:56
    put some sizzle in your life
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    25 Aug '18 12:28
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    There is a difference.
    Current system in place represents a combination of the 2 philosophies.
    1 - a clan has to have a good winning record.
    2 - a clan has to play often enough to be deserving of a title.

    By way of example, you can sort the clan table by gross points.
    You will find that the last place clan losing nearly twice as much as they win is n ...[text shortened]... then you are making this about Metallica.

    This is nothing new to us.
    Knock yourself out. 🙂
    Yes
    But how would the table look if my idea was adopted ?
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    25 Aug '18 14:00
    Originally posted by @padger
    Yes
    But how would the table look if my idea was adopted ?
    Even worse.
    Gross points assigns 0 points to a clan that loses a challenge.

    Under your proposal, a clan could be awarded points for losing a challenge but winning enough games.

    A scoring system needs to separate the eagles from the turkeys.
    Perhaps the phrase is a bit Darwinian for some.
    But I am not a proponent of bringing first place and last place closer together.

    Which btw, is exactly what Carrobie's hare brained ELO proposal stood for.
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    25 Aug '18 19:29
    the truth is out there...…….X Files
    truth is not the truth......Mayor Rudi
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    25 Aug '18 20:07
    Originally posted by @lemondrop
    the truth is out there...…….X Files
    truth is not the truth......Mayor Rudi
    You want the truth?
    You can't handle the truth.
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    There was NO collusion. 😀
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    25 Aug '18 20:46
    Originally posted by @roma45
    You want the truth?
    You can't handle the truth.
    not your version
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    25 Aug '18 21:05
    Originally posted by @lemondrop
    not your version
    There is only eber version of the truth.
    Cheats got caught some got banned others not allowed to play. Others cried like babys and still are.
    Others come up with embarrassing site ideas and rin to admin. Not mentioning any names as the delicate sissy might start crying again
  12. santa cruz, ca.
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    still sizzling
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    26 Aug '18 07:40
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    Even worse.
    Gross points assigns 0 points to a clan that loses a challenge.

    Under your proposal, a clan could be awarded points for losing a challenge but winning enough games.

    A scoring system needs to separate the eagles from the turkeys.
    Perhaps the phrase is a bit Darwinian for some.
    But I am not a proponent of bringing first place and last pla ...[text shortened]... e closer together.

    Which btw, is exactly what Carrobie's hare brained ELO proposal stood for.
    Why ???
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    26 Aug '18 18:31
    I wonder when the vote will be for the great new clan points system recently posted in site ideas?
    I better add i am being sarcastic for the less educated.
    Talk about epic fails. Hahaha.
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    27 Aug '18 01:44
    Originally posted by @padger
    Why ???
    First time I've seen a "because" answer followed by a "why" question.

    I'll leave this thread now. 🙄
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