Originally posted by Very RustyI leave that to those with an axe to grind against a clan that has taken top spot away from the notorious metallica cheating/sandbaggers and siting clans that have had poor results against them being accused of using methods only worthy of metallica.
Sir,
Of course it is all hypothetical, your not accusing anyone of manipulating the system at all. Take a close look at "Easy Riders", Arrow, Breaking Bad, & Anti Metallica. Tell me what you see!!
Kind Regards,
Have A Great Day,
Sincerely,
-VR
I guess when you play for a clan with such low morale standards you look for it in other clans, worst of all when you can't find it then you take innocent situations and add murky/sinister undertones
Originally posted by MctaytoSir,
I guess when you play for a clan with such low morale standards you look for it in other clans, worst of all when you can't find it then you take innocent situations and add murky/sinister undertones
It isn't my fault you got yourself involved with such a group. You made your bed, now you must live with consequences of it.
Very kind Regards,
Sincerely & Respectfully,
-VR
Originally posted by Very RustyI sleep well in my bed with good company.
Sir,
It isn't my fault you got yourself involved with such a group. You made your bed, now you must live with consequences of it.
Very kind Regards,
Sincerely & Respectfully,
-VR
You must be a total computer nerd with nothing to do all day but sit and pounce on every post that anyone makes in this forum.
suggestion - go outside and get a life
Originally posted by MctaytoSir,
You must be a total computer nerd with nothing to do all day but sit and pounce on every post that anyone makes in this forum.
suggestion - go outside and get a life
If that is the case, what are you doing here? I see you on when ever I pop in and see the drivel you have posted. I don't think I am the one who needs to find a life. Thank you so kindly for your concern though. The only posts I dispute are the ones who are completely making false statements.( Keep in mind in this day and age we can be outside and still post on the internet 😉 )
Kindest Regards,
Have A wonderful day,
Sincerely,
-VR
Originally posted by Mctaytocoming from the guy who lives on here that's rich.
I sleep well in my bed with good company.
You must be a total computer nerd with nothing to do all day but sit and pounce on every post that anyone makes in this forum.
suggestion - go outside and get a life
seriously do you ever read the lies and pish you post?
may karma hit you hard, on here and in your real sad life.
we will not shut up or be baited or bullied by sinister cheats like you and co.
i will post more of your sad games soon.
Originally posted by Very RustyI see what should have been a playground for adults but with so-called adults squabbling like children over who gets the most candy.
Sir,
Of course it is all hypothetical, your not accusing anyone of manipulating the system at all. Take a close look at "Easy Riders", Arrow, Breaking Bad, & Anti Metallica. Tell me what you see!!
Kind Regards,
Have A Great Day,
Sincerely,
-VR
Originally posted by MctaytoNot if clan ranking is pegged to individual ratings, in which case thrown games drag the clan ranking down along with individual ratings.
As this happens in clan challenges then surely a new rating method still allows metallica to continue cheating using moonbus methodology
Originally posted by moonbusSir,
I see what should have been a playground for adults but with so-called adults squabbling like children over who gets the most candy.
Sorry if my comments were not to your liking. It is obvious to me that you are taking a SIDE in this mess. It most certainly isn't a solution, in my opinion. Adults disagree on matters of importance. Children squabble over candy, there is a big difference. Do you see it?
Have A Great Day,
Kindest Regards,
Sincerely,
-VR
Originally posted by moonbusall right i will simplify the thread i started just for you
All right, I'll simplify it for you:
[b]A recipe for systematically manipulating clan ranking by selectively throwing games.
Round 1. Clan A challenges Clan B with a team of 10 players. If Clan A should happen to find itself with 6 wins and 4 games still undecided, then it takes the 6 wins and runs, throwing the remaining 4 games. Result: 6 wins, a ...[text shortened]... own game would not only deflate the individual player’s rating but also the clan’s rank thereby.[/b]
using the power of a COMPARISON
imagine you are a judge, you are getting ready to sentence someone for murder, your attitude to me seems to be, not much point of doing a punishment as someone else will probably do a murder, lets solve the problem to why people commit murder than punishing those who do.
what the easy riders breaking bad anti-metallica and the arrow are doing is a disgrace, if this site want's to keep it's integrity, punishments must be handed out, suspensions and points removal is the only fair outcome, a message must be sent,
you for some reason seem happy the four clans are getting off scot free. you must have your own agenda, not to worry soon there will few clan's left on here
Originally posted by roma45imagine you had a brain, just think what you might achieve.
all right i will simplify the thread i started just for you
using the power of a [b]COMPARISON
imagine you are a judge, you are getting ready to sentence someone for murder, your attitude to me seems to be, not much point of doing a punishment as someone else will probably do a murder, lets solve the problem to why people commit murder than punishin ...[text shortened]... f scot free. you must have your own agenda, not to worry soon there will few clan's left on here[/b]
Originally posted by roma45First of all, this isn't a court of law and no one is on trial here.
all right i will simplify the thread i started just for you
using the power of a [b]COMPARISON
imagine you are a judge, you are getting ready to sentence someone for murder, your attitude to me seems to be, not much point of doing a punishment as someone else will probably do a murder, lets solve the problem to why people commit murder than punishin ...[text shortened]... f scot free. you must have your own agenda, not to worry soon there will few clan's left on here[/b]
Second, you and some others who are intent on punishing four clans are looking only at symptoms, not the root cause.
Sandbagging and collusion are symptoms.
Even without the side issues of sandbagging and collusion, the clan system is distorted by a fundamental flaw, as follows:
Clan A has 20 players.
Clan B has 20 players.
Clan C has 5 players.
Clan A pits its 5 best players against Clan C and loses, 5:0.
Clan B pits its 5 best players against Clan C and loses, 5:0.
Clan A plays Clan B at full force and wins 20:0.
The final tally:
Clan A 20 wins.
Clan C 10 wins.
Clan B zero.
If gross wins is the criterion of winning, then Clan A must be the champions. Yet they were soundly beaten by Clan C.
Obvious conclusion: gross wins is not the right measure of a champion.
Get that sorted out first, then see whether any punitive measures are still necessary.
Originally posted by moonbusSir,
First of all, this isn't a court of law and no one is on trial here.
Second, you and some others who are intent on punishing four clans are looking only at symptoms, not the root cause.
Sandbagging and collusion are symptoms.
Even without the side issues of sandbagging and collusion, the clan system is distorted by a fundamental flaw, as follows:
...[text shortened]... that sorted out first, then see whether any punitive measures are still necessary.
I strongly disagree, you do the roll back on points that were handed on a silver platter, & hand out suspensions to those involved. It is OBVIOUS at least to me you are SIDING with the collusion clans. "Easy Riders", Breaking Bad, Anti Metallica, & arrow. Other wise why would you not want a roll back on CHEATED POINTS!!!!
Further more I don't think your solution will work either. My opinion of course.
Kind Regards,
-VR