Scoring of a draw in a clan challenge?

Originally posted by @roma45
Exactly the same only one had an extra add on

Majority was reached

had they combined the two I would agree that it would have been a majority
it's just a technical dispute
I'll concede

Originally posted by @lemondrop
had they combined the two I would agree that it would have been a majority
it's just a technical dispute
I'll concede

Call it a draw 😉

Originally posted by @roma45
Call it a draw 😉

🙂

Originally posted by @roma45
112 voted .
27 option one annual net points .
36 option two annual net points and punish cheats

Option one and two were basically the same thing.
SO 63 out of 112 is s MAJORITY.

How many were asked to vote ?
Were the reasons for the vote explained exactly ?
Were the voters explained that net points is actually a load of rubbish or were they talked over by you ?

Originally posted by @padger
How many were asked to vote ?
Were the reasons for the vote explained exactly ?
Were the voters explained that net points is actually a load of rubbish or were they talked over by you ?

Every clan leader got a vote.
There was six choices
The punishment vote won by most votes as far as I am concerned there was no need to vote on that issue the cheating should have been stamped out straight away admin done it in the past but wasted a year then a vote before anything happened. Only one player got punished

The punishment vote was the only choice for me the elo system was unworkable and made no sense.

You also voted the punishment vote would you change your vote now?

The net system is fair from perfect but much better than the old gross system that handed clans playing the most games champions

I hoped for a separate clan rating for each player that would destroy sand bagging but Russ said that was impossible to do.
Each voter had their own choice I pmed three other clans leaders at the time only one supported the punishment vote.
Seriously if you think it's a "load of rubbish" why bother playing?
I never enter open tournaments because of the machines in them we don't have a RHP championship anymore because of the machines.
More should be done by certain page one players than worrying about net points which is the fairest system
Try just enjoying playing chess rather than harping on and on
Nothing will change

Originally posted by @padger
How many were asked to vote ?
Were the reasons for the vote explained exactly ?
Were the voters explained that net points is actually a load of rubbish or were they talked over by you ?

ALL clan leaders that were active were asked to vote.
I believe all but 2 voted as well.
The votes were tabulated and a clear majority existed.

Net points have only been a load of rubbish to you. Everyone else understands them.
If you will recall, we used to decide the champion by gross points.
A bunch of leaders who didn't want to play as many challenges as would be necessary
to win whined about this, so they changed the determiner to be net points.

The reasons for the vote were explained clearly?
If you were the leader at the time and didn't understand, you should have asked.
If you weren't the leader at the time, then why are you sounding off now?

I've just had a look at the clan net points list.
Apart from lemon drops's clan, (only 1 member)the first page consists of clans I would have challenged when I was a leader so we must have achieved something.

Originally posted by @shortcircuit
ALL clan leaders that were active were asked to vote.
I believe all but 2 voted as well.
The votes were tabulated and a clear majority existed.

Net points have only been a load of rubbish to you. Everyone else understands them.
If you will recall, we used to decide the champion by gross points.
A bunch of leaders who didn't want to play as many ...[text shortened]... ou should have asked.
If you weren't the leader at the time, then why are you sounding off now?

If they do not make sense then no matter what you say they are rubbish
If you can explain to me how a clan challenge with 5 players ends up 6-4 and the clan with 6 gets 10 points and the clan with 4 gets minus 10 points and if they were individual games the score would have been 6 - 4 I will accept the system but because they are two different scores I cannot

Originally posted by @padger
If they do not make sense then no matter what you say they are rubbish
If you can explain to me how a clan challenge with 5 players ends up 6-4 and the clan with 6 gets 10 points and the clan with 4 gets minus 10 points and if they were individual games the score would have been 6 - 4 I will accept the system but because they are two different scores I cannot

Instead of playing 5 v 5
Just play 5 individual challenges
Problem solved

Originally posted by @roma45
Instead of playing 5 v 5
Just play 5 individual challenges
Problem solved

So you agree the system is rubbish

Why should the losing clan in a challenge get any points at all? Other sports don't have proportional wins.

I kind of like the fact that there's a penalty for losing a clan challenge -- that raises the stakes.

Originally posted by @padger
So you agree the system is rubbish

The system is fine
Just handing you a solution to a problem that only you have

Now I'm wondering why The Internationals have any active challenges at all, considering the clan leader objects so strongly to the current scoring system. Wouldn't offering or accepting a challenge in these circumstances imply agreement with the scoring system in effect at the time?

BTW, if anyone in The Internationals is looking elsewhere because of the clan leader's poor sportsmanship, Clan Cawdor is now recruiting.

Originally posted by @roma45
Instead of playing 5 v 5
Just play 5 individual challenges
Problem solved

Exactly !!
Clan system has a risk-reward aspect to it.
Winner take all !!