Go back
Time is right to treat 'data' as singular

Time is right to treat 'data' as singular

Culture

F

Joined
28 Oct 05
Moves
34587
Clock
01 Apr 11
Vote Up
Vote Down

Enough is enough. "The data are shown in Table 1.4.2." Ugly. Clumsy. Too beholden to Latin, which ain't English. It's high time English is allowed to evolve just a little bit and for 'data' to be treated like an uncountable noun.

T

Joined
15 Oct 06
Moves
10115
Clock
01 Apr 11
1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by FMF
Enough is enough. "The data are shown in Table 1.4.2." Ugly. Clumsy. Too beholden to Latin, which ain't English. It's high time English is allowed to evolve just a little bit and for 'data' to be treated like an uncountable noun.
Consider it done.

Google counts for "Data are":
"About 44,300,000 results"

Google counts for "Data is":
"About 120,000,000 results"

F

Joined
28 Oct 05
Moves
34587
Clock
01 Apr 11
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Consider it done.

Google counts for "Data are":
"About 44,300,000 results"

Google counts for "Data is":
"About 120,000,000 results"
What data are is am you got for split infinitives?

T

Joined
15 Oct 06
Moves
10115
Clock
01 Apr 11

Originally posted by FMF
What data are is am you got for split infinitives?
I ain't got no data for no split infinitives.

F

Joined
28 Oct 05
Moves
34587
Clock
01 Apr 11
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
I ain't got no data for no split infinitives.
I had a feeling you were going to disappointingly say that.

D
incipit parodia

Joined
01 Aug 07
Moves
46580
Clock
01 Apr 11
Vote Up
Vote Down

My current contract brings me in to contact with lots of medical professionals, and they stick to the data-as-plural thing. Several months in, and it still jars when I read it. Maybe I should ask one whether he ever uses the word datum?

R
CerebrallyChallenged

Lyme BayChesil Beach

Joined
09 Dec 06
Moves
17848
Clock
01 Apr 11
Vote Up
Vote Down

As nothing other than idle curiosity with the singular and plural, has anyone an idea as to why math(S) isn't so ?? It is a noun, is it not, but perhaps a mere foreshortening adopted by the U.S alone and nothing to do with plural...a question for the English expert maybe ?

JS357

Joined
29 Dec 08
Moves
6788
Clock
01 Apr 11
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by DrKF
My current contract brings me in to contact with lots of medical professionals, and they stick to the data-as-plural thing. Several months in, and it still jars when I read it. Maybe I should ask one whether he ever uses the word datum?
And how about the Brits, who say things like "It seems that Unilever have come up with a unique solution...".

D
incipit parodia

Joined
01 Aug 07
Moves
46580
Clock
01 Apr 11
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by JS357
And how about the Brits, who say things like "It seems that Unilever have come up with a unique solution...".
I'm from the UK, and I honestly don't know what you think is weird about that sentence!

D
incipit parodia

Joined
01 Aug 07
Moves
46580
Clock
01 Apr 11
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by RevRSleeker
As nothing other than idle curiosity with the singular and plural, has anyone an idea as to why math(S) isn't so ?? It is a noun, is it not, but perhaps a mere foreshortening adopted by the U.S alone and nothing to do with plural...a question for the English expert maybe ?
Here in the UK, it is maths - and it's an Americanism that particularly jars with me... (Written, it's the suffix -ization.)

T

Joined
15 Oct 06
Moves
10115
Clock
02 Apr 11
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by FMF
I had a feeling you were going to disappointingly say that.
Good one.

F

Unknown Territories

Joined
05 Dec 05
Moves
20408
Clock
02 Apr 11
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Good one.
Or--- since we're all itching to change the flow of English--- good ones.

Howzabout 'data' for the singular and 'datas' for plural... you know, to really throw the monkum some wrenchum.

N

The sky

Joined
05 Apr 05
Moves
10385
Clock
02 Apr 11
Vote Up
Vote Down

There is only one Data.

F

Unknown Territories

Joined
05 Dec 05
Moves
20408
Clock
02 Apr 11
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by Nordlys
There is only one Data.
Tada!

Suzianne
Misfit Queen

Isle of Misfit Toys

Joined
08 Aug 03
Moves
37387
Clock
02 Apr 11
1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by DrKF
Here in the UK, it is math[b]s - and it's an Americanism that particularly jars with me... (Written, it's the suffix -ization.)[/b]
As the addition of the superfluous S jars with me. (Much like adding a superfluous U to color.)

When you abbreviate, you break the rest of the word off, you don't go back in and add in the S for no reason, especially when talking about a singlular.

And for you neanderthals who think mathematics is plural, then what the heck is a mathematic?

Mathematics is a noun, mathematic is an adjective. It doesn't get any more clear than that. There's NO reason to add the S back on.


Edit: Or you know what? Even better, spell it math's, since the apostrophe represents letters that were taken out. If all you English-abusing Brits wrote it math's, I'd be happy. I'd still use math, though, because most people would assume you were using a possessive or misusing a plural if you wrote it that way.

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.