07 Jul 18
Originally posted by @great-king-ratHow is this 'right wing'? What reputable definition of 'right wing' are you using.
https://www.dw.com/en/austria-thousands-protest-against-plans-for-12-hour-workday/a-44475182
Please, everyone. By all means, continue to vote for right wing scumbags.
It's certainly going to make the world a much, much better place.
BTW I didn't see any indication that workers would be forced to work 12 hours, surely a 12 hour shift would suit some workers especially if they get a 3 day weekend.
07 Jul 18
Originally posted by @wajomaI’m sure 12 hour working days would suit a few workers.
How is this 'right wing'? What reputable definition of 'right wing' are you using.
BTW I didn't see any indication that workers would be forced to work 12 hours, surely a 12 hour shift would suit some workers especially if they get a 3 day weekend.
However, most working people have sustain a family, and 12 hours isn’t realistic. Working fewer hours helps them to invest in their kids, which leads to them being less dysfunctional.
Originally posted by @shavixmirWell we agree then. Different people in different situations might prefer different conditions. Guvamint shouldn't dictate an 8, 8.25, 10, 9.333, 12 or 20 hour day, just let people figure out what is best for themselves. You use the example of family time, that's great for people that have families in certain situations. But the guy that has to stay away from home for a week or month might prefer to get in and knock the job over, make some money, thus creating more family time for himself. (or *sigh* herself [for the sake of the terminally triggered D64])
I’m sure 12 hour working days would suit a few workers.
However, most working people have sustain a family, and 12 hours isn’t realistic. Working fewer hours helps them to invest in their kids, which leads to them being less dysfunctional.
08 Jul 18
Originally posted by @wajomaRight wing scumbags greatly enjoy giving as much power to employers as possible, while treating employees like disposable machines. When ideas like these are proposed they are almost always proposed by disgusting right wingers, with no empathy for their fellow human beings at all.
How is this 'right wing'? What reputable definition of 'right wing' are you using.
BTW I didn't see any indication that workers would be forced to work 12 hours, surely a 12 hour shift would suit some workers especially if they get a 3 day weekend.
Even if it is volutarily, it will make the position of the one choosing to work a *measly* eight hours much, much weaker than the one choosing to work 12 hours.
Of course, you have no problem with certain groups (women, elderly, "them coloured folks" ) having an inherently weaker position when it comes to finding and keeping a job, so you will not see a problem with this is at all.
Gross right wing scumbags.
We're really going through a very dark world wide political period right now.
08 Jul 18
Originally posted by @shavixmir"Some workers" isn't particularly interesting.
I’m sure 12 hour working days would suit a few workers.
However, most working people have sustain a family, and 12 hours isn’t realistic. Working fewer hours helps them to invest in their kids, which leads to them being less dysfunctional.
The vast majority of workers have already lost most of their concentration after ~6 hours. Twelve hours of doing roughly the same job, five days a week is going to reduce quality, vastly increase unhappiness and meanwhile make the rich even richer.
We're moving in a bad direction, currently.
08 Jul 18
Originally posted by @wajomaYou clearly didn't read the article:
How is this 'right wing'? What reputable definition of 'right wing' are you using.
BTW I didn't see any indication that workers would be forced to work 12 hours, surely a 12 hour shift would suit some workers especially if they get a 3 day weekend.
"Tens of thousands of people in Vienna packed the streets on Saturday to voice their opposition to loosening labor laws to allow for a 12-hour workday and subsequent 60-hour workweek."
12 hours over a five-day work week is 60 hours. This law wouldn't give workers a three-day weekend; it'll only lessen how much time they have for themselves.
http://www.thedawn-news.org/2018/07/04/austrians-march-against-law-permitting-12-hour-work-days/
Though the government has said that the new rules are ‘voluntary’, the unions have pointed out that the new laws also remove the power of works’ councils to veto employers’ demands for extra hours.
Both articles mention the government already allows employers to impose 10-hour work days, resulting in a 50-hour work week. As the article I posted shows, this new law removes union ability to refuse demands for extra hours; so this government is basically lying to it's people about the 12-hours being voluntary.
And both articles point out that this government is right-wing.
08 Jul 18
I am not sure about how it works in Austria... But I am guessing that the principle on this is to cut regulations that would enable free workers to sell their labors for the amount of time that they would like to sell it for and that this is moreso about free parties making contracts freely.
Obviously, if you think about this like it is some cartoon and there's an obese, piggish man smoking a fat cigar between his fat fingers & shuffling around some paperwork that will make everyday Joe now work 12 hours a day... 4 OF THEM UNPAID... for LESS WAGES THAN BEFORE...
You can have some kind of emotional outburst about this but honestly... I don't really get it.
Is that the case?
Or is this just exaggerations.
08 Jul 18
Originally posted by @wajomaI’m fine with governments clipping the greedy wings of the non-producing classes and setting down a maximum amount of hours a boss can abuse someone.
Well we agree then. Different people in different situations might prefer different conditions. Guvamint shouldn't dictate an 8, 8.25, 10, 9.333, 12 or 20 hour day, just let people figure out what is best for themselves. You use the example of family time, that's great for people that have families in certain situations. But the guy that has to stay away ...[text shortened]... ily time for himself. (or *sigh* herself [for the sake of the terminally triggered D64])
And 8 a day is fine.
12 Jul 18
Originally posted by @shavixmirHa. Like you work 8 hours a day, you clock watching paycheck sponge. 😉
I’m fine with governments clipping the greedy wings of the non-producing classes and setting down a maximum amount of hours a boss can abuse someone.
And 8 a day is fine.
12 Jul 18
Originally posted by @soothfastHippie!
Ha. Like you work 8 hours a day, you clock watching paycheck sponge. 😉
12 Jul 18
Originally posted by @shavixmirMan, I've been called a lot of things in my life, but "hippie" was never one of them.
Hippie!