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300MetricTons of CO2 in 18mos, Kerry's private jet

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@vivify said
Republicans are blocking clean energy laws that fix problems like how much CO2 jets emit.

Republicans block renewable energy then complain about carbon emissions. POS, of them.
You're missing the point, they're not complaining about CO2 emissions, they're pointing a finger at the hypocrisy.

At one of the environment talk fests there was a shortage of limousine transport for all the bureaurats, they had to fly in extra limos.

I think it's great that man has the ability to mobilise resources like this, but it shouldn't be for people who are telling everyone else to cut down.

And there's no man made law that can overcome the laws of physics. One of the primary objectives of aircraft manufacturers is fuel economy, they invest millions in researching how to save every liter of fuel because achieving that helps them sell aircraft it's not to appease faceless parasitical bureaurats and know nothing keyboard whiners.


@mghrn55 said
No, no, no !!!
Talking about who is flying around in a private jet, commercial jet (business class and economy) is not addressing the issue.
Nor is talking about Trump flying Air Force One to play golf.

That is part of our transportation infrastructure.
What we need to talk about is improving the infrastructure.
Not finger pointing who is using the current infrastructu ...[text shortened]... ll it) will be just sitting in the same aircraft.
We just won't know what he/she does for a living.
The issue is not about anything but John Kerry dumping tons of CO2 into our atmosphere while preaching to everyone not to do it. He works for us.
Not Trump, golf, infrastructure , government.
What do you think about it. You don’t ever answer simple questions. I asked Marauder if he thinks aborting a 9 month old baby is OK.....tell me...since none of us really want that...why would he, you, everyone, not simply say,,,Yeah, that is pretty bad.
Why is it so hard to agree with common sense.


@wajoma said
You're missing the point, they're not complaining about CO2 emissions, they're pointing a finger at the hypocrisy.

At one of the environment talk fests there was a shortage of limousine transport for all the bureaurats, they had to fly in extra limos.

I think it's great that man has the ability to mobilise resources like this, but it shouldn't be for people who are telli ...[text shortened]... sell aircraft it's not to appease faceless parasitical bureaurats and know nothing keyboard whiners.
Thanks Wajoma. Now we prepare for the ole “whatsboutism ‘ retort.


@AverageJoe1
My thought is you are jealous that you can't afford that private jet and have to resort to just first class on El Al......

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
My thought is you are jealous that you can't afford that private jet and have to resort to just first class on El Al......
See? Sonhouse told us what he thinks. Now maybe the jester will weigh in. What a thread.
Jesus.
At least I have golf to fall back on. At this rate, I may as well take up croquet.

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@averagejoe1 said
No, no, no. Y’all are all alike. Biden closes pipelines and covers for his boy.
But this thread is about none of that. What do you think about czar John Kerry dumping tons of CO2. That is the question. Leon de Caprio et al dump CO2 as well, but I did not write about him.
John Kerry. Private jet. Your thoughts.
They think it is okay when Kerry does it. They think it is okay when Bill Gates does it. It is what they say, not what they do. Then you have to wonder about the rich movie stars who do it and they are not politician big wigs either. They do it by choice and cannot hide behind the politicians need to go places fast excuse.

https://www.newsweek.com/leonardo-dicaprio-climate-change-private-jet-yacht-global-citizen-1461990

Heck we could put together a list of people democrats should shame.

https://www.thetravel.com/25-movie-stars-that-only-travel-on-their-jet-planes/

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@wajoma said
You're missing the point, they're not complaining about CO2 emissions, they're pointing a finger at the hypocrisy.
As I mentioned before Republicans are blocking efforts to get away from fossil fuels because they are corporate tools.

See this government link:

https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/sustainable-aviation-fuels#:~:text=SAF%20is%20a%20biofuel%20used,compared%20to%20conventional%20jet%20fuel.

We already have renewable energy for jets. But guess what? Republicans blocked a bill that will give tax incentives for business that move to renewable energy. This is because that could lead to the decline of the fossil fuel industry.

If Republicans had not been blocking renewable energy initiatives for so many years, Kerry could've been using a jet with renewable energy. This claim of "hypocrisy" is a merely a tactic to discredit green energy bills.

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https://grist.org/article/no-renewal-for-renewables/

Senate Republicans block movement on two bills to spur renewable energy investment

Private jets aren't the issue it's Republicans blocking bills that can make private jets greener.

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@vivify
Don't worry, the zombies will have an "answer' to that one too. It would involve a bad democrat POTUS no doubt.

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This is like if I drive a gas-guzzler because Republicans are stopping vehicles from having renewable energy. Then when I state the importance of renewable energy, Republicans call me a hypocrite for driving a gas-guzzler.

Conservatives are either too stupid, uninformed or dishonest to see this is what's happening with Kerry.

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@vivify said
As I mentioned before Republicans are blocking efforts to get away from fossil fuels because they are corporate tools.

See this government link:

https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/sustainable-aviation-fuels#:~:text=SAF%20is%20a%20biofuel%20used,compared%20to%20conventional%20jet%20fuel.

We already have renewable energy for jets. But guess what? Republicans bloc ...[text shortened]... h renewable energy. This claim of "hypocrisy" is a merely a tactic to discredit green energy bills.
You are full of it as far as responding to a simple post. Full of it. Pitiful. Why don't you throw in that TRUMP should have gone green during his tenure, and the little man Kerry could just fly around with his flight attendants all day with no shame. Shame? Do you think he feels shame?
So you cannot answer this question? No other lib will, either. Very telling. Do you fellers sit around in a circle of chairs every evening with your bottled water.
You are just the guy who will preach wind and solar energy!! It would not work, by the way, it takes too much land, which land has to be very near the end users. Any vacant land around NYC??
Losers@!!!!!

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@averagejoe1 said
The issue is not about anything but John Kerry dumping tons of CO2 into our atmosphere while preaching to everyone not to do it. He works for us.
Not Trump, golf, infrastructure , government.
What do you think about it. You don’t ever answer simple questions. I asked Marauder if he thinks aborting a 9 month old baby is OK.....tell me...since none of us really want ...[text shortened]... ryone, not simply say,,,Yeah, that is pretty bad.
Why is it so hard to agree with common sense.
Because you want it to be that issue.
For your cheap politics.
That private jet is government property and used for government business.
Whether it is Kerry today and a GOP Climate representative in future.
I still fly because I need to get from A to B.
That doesn't make me a hypocrite.

But we all need to get a better way of doing things.

Opening up pipelines may lower fuel prices.
But it is going backwards.
Doing the "drill baby drill" narrative is going backwards.

You continue to miss the boat. And then fall off the dock.

And btw .......
Continually sticking your head up the rear ends of rich people and then playing the rich/poor card makes you look ridiculous.
But then, you've always been ridiculous.

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@averagejoe1 said
So you cannot answer this question?
Your "question" was answered. You just don't like the answer.

Don't you think Kerry would rather spend less money on cheaper, renewable fuel than on increasingly more expensive fossil fuel? Everyone would. Republicans continually block that possibility.

"Conservatives are either too stupid, uninformed or dishonest to see this is what's happening"---Vivify

Exhibit A: AvJoe

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@AverageJoe1
What about your buddy Ron Johnson?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/08/sen-ron-johnson-has-been-using-private-plane-travel-d-c/5904361002/

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@vivify said
https://grist.org/article/no-renewal-for-renewables/

Senate Republicans block movement on two bills to spur renewable energy investment

Private jets aren't the issue it's Republicans blocking bills that can make private jets greener.
Democrat Joe Manchin is blocking it too. You cannot blame only republicans.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/20/joe-manchin-oil-and-gas-fossil-fuels-senator