@Duchess64 -
Note that hypocritical Westerners prefer to evade questions about why their oh-so-concerned
countries refuse to accept Rohingya refugees and blame everything as usual on China.
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China is much much closer to west Myanmar than "Western Nations". This is Southeast Asia, for god's sakes.
It's like expecting Indians in northern Nevada to escape American cavalry by going to Canada instead of Mexico. On FOOT.
Take a look at where Laos, Bangladesh, and Thailand are. Are you saying that
refuges that ended up in those countries could not continue on into China?
Keep making excuses for China,
@Duchess64 -
Note that Earl of Trumps continues his usual shameless dishonesty.
Note that Earl of Trumps severely dishonestly distorted what he wrote.
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Stick to the ISSUE. EoT is NOT the issue. ðŸ˜
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@Duchess64 -
Note that Earl of Trumps absurdly pretended that Rohingya refugees could easily
hop over Myanmar's border with China when, in fact, the Rohingya tend to live
ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE COUNTRY NEAR ITS BORDER WITH BANGLADESH.
Notice the absurd Duchess64 refuses to acknowledge that once settled in to other border countries,
(Bangladesh, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos) that NONE kept moving on into China.
Notice too, that the absurd Duchess64 refuses to acknowledge that the Rohingya are brown skinned Muslims,
who may be clever enough to know how the Chinese treat brown skinned Muslims - like the Uighurs brown Muslims
@Duchess64 -
Of course, racist white Westerners do NOT want to allow dark-skinned Muslims into
their own societies, and they make extremely dishonest excuses in denying their own bigotry.
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Of course racist Han Chinese do not want any more brown skinned Muslims in their land, FACT.
We know that in the West, brown skinned Muslims are NOT greeted with genocide and slavery as they are in China.
Has the totally dishonest Duchess64 bothered to explain how much further it is to go to "the West" than it is China??
The distance from Myanmar to Germany is 5,000 miles!! And these Rohingya are ON FOOT!!!!
Did the shameless distorter, D64, explain THAT?? Not hardly. China is a border country to Myanmar.
Even of the Rohingya had to take a circuitous route to get to China, it is nowhere near that 5,000 miles of distance away.
The Rohingya did not end up going to China because THEY DID NOT WANT TO GO THERE, nor were they invited into China.
The 2015 Rohingya refugee crisis refers to the forcible displacement of Muslim Myanmar nationals from the Arrakkan & Rakhine state of Myanmar to neighboring Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, Cambodia, Laos and Thailand in 2015, collectively dubbed "boat people" by international media.[1][2] Nearly all who fled traveled to Southeast Asian countries including Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, Cambodia, Laos and Thailand by rickety boats via the waters of the Strait of Malacca, Bay of Bengal and the Andaman Sea. ------Wiki
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The post that was quoted here has been removedAn interesting article suggesting that the current situation has made ethnic Bamar more sensitive to the plight of minorities in Myanmar.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/03/29/myanmar-protests-coup-ethnic-groups-military-federal-democracy/
Before the military seized power from Myanmar’s civilian government in February, Wai Hnin Lae Phyu, a medical student in Yangon, didn’t give much thought to her country’s persecuted ethnic minorities. She had even dismissed their plight, including when the military launched a campaign of killing, rape, and arson against the Rohingya minority in Rakhine state in 2017. But during the protests against the coup, Wai Hnin Lae Phyu has apologized for her apathy. “Many youth were sleeping before the military coup. Since Feb. 1, we woke up,” she said.
Myanmar’s military, known as the Tatmadaw, has killed at least 510 people and detained more than 2,500 others since it took power on Feb. 1. Now terrorized by the military themselves, many people from the Bamar ethnic majority are developing a sense of solidarity with the country’s numerous minority groups. Public apologies for years of indifference and denial of minority people’s experiences have proliferated. “We have learned day by day, and our point of view has changed. We feel really sorry,” said Yin Yin, a Bamar youth who worked as a hotelier in Yangon before the coup.
Many Bamar people also seem to be shifting their political objectives. Early in the protests, a split emerged between groups led by an older generation of protesters from the 1988 student uprisings who called for the release of democratic leader Aung San Suu Kyi and elected officials and a return to the previous system of governance and a diverse group of protesters who united under the General Strike Committee of Nationalities (GSCN) with more ambitious demands. The GSCN advocates for the abolition of the military-drafted 2008 constitution and the establishment of a new one based on federalism. These calls have rapidly gained momentum, especially among a young generation eager to make amends for past injustices and build a more equitable society.
Before the coup, military violence and government oppression of ethnic minorities evoked only weak responses from the Bamar public. Mass denial followed the 2017 campaign against the Rohingya, and only a few activists spoke out. When the Tatmadaw launched airstrikes in Kachin state in 2018 and the government blocked displaced people from safe passage or access to humanitarian assistance, there was little outcry beyond activist circles. The same was true when the government shut down the internet in Rakhine state and parts of Chin state for more than a year.
But the shared experience of suffering under military violence has contributed to shifting views among Bamar demonstrators. “Since the coup started, we all faced the same thing, the same tragic incidents all over the country,” Yin Yin said. “It doesn’t matter if we are Burmese, Kachin, Chin, or any ethnic group. As long as we are living in Myanmar, we have the same rights and we need the same freedom, so federal democracy is a must.”
The post that was quoted here has been removedKevcvs57 is saying that from a Rohingya perspective the military coup has made very little if any difference to their plight because of the lack of support or empathy from the countries majority ethnic group that the military pretended to let Aung San Suu lead.
Clearly the majority ethnic group in Myanmar were unconcerned about the treatment of ethnic minorities in the country. If one didn’t know better one might even accuse these ethnic Asians of being racist.
The post that was quoted here has been removed“ The Rohingya are no better and no worse off than before the military coup d'etat. ”
Haha I may have take action under copyright law on this one.
“ Kevcvs57 fails to grasp that judging Myanmar only through the narrow lens of
what's best for the Rohingya is like judging the USA by what's best for the Mormons.”
No he hasn’t failed to grasp that and he has never claimed anything of the sort.
I’m simply saying that once again the lesson has had to be learned that you cannot appease a violent oppressive regime by sitting on your hands and hoping they will not turn on you. The military that murdered, raped and tortured the Rohingya minority with the acquiescence of the majority is now doing the same to the general population.
The post that was quoted here has been removedI do not give a half pence about Aung Suu Kyi she was never more than a figurehead under the regime and she is now an irrelevance.
The Rohingya’s best bet for the future is a truly democratic election resulting in an inclusive government that respects all minorities in Myanmar.
“ 1) Invade Myanmar?
No but there are plenty of military options short of invasion that could degrade the military junta and if it’s coupled with a serious arming of the democratic opposition.
2) Offer the Rohingya refuge in the UK and other Western societies?
No I think it would be much more practical to offer them refugee status as near to home as possible in hope of a return and in terms if adjustment
3) Offer massive aid to Bangladesh to help resettle the Rohingya?”
Again if the right governance is in place then I’m sure the Rohingya would prefer to return to their homes. But I think we should already be offering aid to Bangladesh to deal with the refugee crisis.