@no1marauder said"Belarus didn't get hit quite as hard as many countries"
Belarus didn't get hit quite as hard as many countries, but still reported 2,871 COVID19 deaths in a country of about 9.5 million. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Are those figures exaggerated to aid Bill Gates' murderous plot?
That was big of you to admit it, until after the but. Belarus proves there is no evidence lockdowns are effective. You can attempt to spin your failure any way you want. Intelligent people know better. I proved you wrong......again. Accept it. It sucks to be you.
The post that was quoted here has been removedNo bubble burst silly.
China also manufactures our Covid tests with Ethylene Oxide. Maybe you should ask public health officials why the US is allowing a carcinogenic product from China to be used in the USA while one of their vaccines is prevented from competing.
Irony is not a new discovery in regards to this issue douchuss. Sorry to burst your bubble. Try again.
The post that was quoted here has been removed"My point was that some Chinese are developing a supposedly 'non-real' (imaginary?) vaccine,
which is 'gene therapy' according to MetalBrain."
So what? At least a real vaccine is available in China. They will have a choice between a real vaccine and gene vaccines. Americans do NOT have that choice.
The USA is NOT a free market economy. The US government squelches competition from other vaccines to protect Pfizer, Modera and J&J from competition.
Perhaps Bill Gates does not own stock shares in Sinopharm. That might explain it.
@metal-brain saidUk 0 covid deaths reported on 1st of June 12 Covid deaths reported on the 2nd of June thanks to MRNA vaccines. Yeah we are raging about it over here you halfwit.
"Is QAnon much less crazy than that conspiracy theory?"
What conspiracy theory? As I have demonstrated, not all things people claim are conspiracy theories are theories at all.
What specific conspiracy theory are you talking about Duchess? What do you specifically think is crazy? As I have demonstrated, many people call facts crazy as if verifiable facts are conspir ...[text shortened]... . Blame the liars who pushed messenger RNA on you. I tried to warn you all. Your anger is misplaced.
I’m sure you’ll keep pushing your BS anti vax party line but you are looking sillier everyday.
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@metal-brain saidYou're dodging my question and bringing up an irrelevant argument (which is false anyway; Belarus introduced many mandatory restrictions to fight COVID19 including a ban on foreigners entering the country, mandatory face masks in certain cities, etc. etc. etc. https://www.garda.com/crisis24/news-alerts/467616/belarus-authorities-maintain-covid-19-related-international-travel-and-domestic-restrictions-as-of-april-15-update-7).
"Belarus didn't get hit quite as hard as many countries"
That was big of you to admit it, until after the but. Belarus proves there is no evidence lockdowns are effective. You can attempt to spin your failure any way you want. Intelligent people know better. I proved you wrong......again. Accept it. It sucks to be you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T4yRzesgKM
Now did Belarus have 2871 COVID 19 deaths or not? While not as bad as other countries, it would still equate to about 100,000 deaths in a country with the population of the US.
Try to focus; your crank theory is reliant on the national governments of the world exaggerating the number of COVID19 deaths in their countries to entice their People to take deadly non-vaccines and fake tests that will kill them in mass numbers.
EDIT: In case you forgot:
"no1: You've also claimed that the number of COVID19 deaths have been exaggerated by about 20X.
How does that square with Bill Gates trying to depopulate the planet?"
MB: "Isn't that obvious?
To get people to take the vaccine.
To get people to take C19 tests with Ethylene oxide in it."
@no1marauder said"no1: You've also claimed that the number of COVID19 deaths have been exaggerated by about 20X."
You're dodging my question and bringing up an irrelevant argument (which is false anyway; Belarus introduced many mandatory restrictions to fight COVID19 including a ban on foreigners entering the country, mandatory face masks in certain cities, etc. etc. etc. https://www.garda.com/crisis24/news-alerts/467616/belarus-authorities-maintain-covid-19-related-international-tra ...[text shortened]... us?
To get people to take the vaccine.
To get people to take C19 tests with Ethylene oxide in it."
That is not true. I never made such a statement.
You keep going on about a crank theory without specifying. What crank theory? Are you sure it is my crank theory and not someone else? You don't seem to be able to distinguish me from other people.
Try to specify without getting confused about who said what. You seem to be habitually delusional. Get it together if you are going to allege crank theories for anybody to guess what the heck you are talking about.
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@kevcvs57 saidFrom the link below:
Uk 0 covid deaths reported on 1st of June 12 Covid deaths reported on the 2nd of June thanks to MRNA vaccines. Yeah we are raging about it over here you halfwit.
I’m sure you’ll keep pushing your BS anti vax party line but you are looking sillier everyday.
"But that was put in the government's dataset retrospectively after they changed the way deaths were recorded, meaning today is the first time the daily coronavirus update has reported zero deaths."
https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/uk-records-first-day-with-zero-deaths-from-covid-in-10-months-but-new-cases-up-by-30
How did they change the way deaths were recorded?
Why are new cases up 30% with no deaths?
Here is another excerpt from that link:
"The zero death figure may partly be down to a lag in reporting following the Bank Holiday weekend"
Is it really zero? I doubt it.
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@metal-brain saidMB: "As of August 23, 2020, the CDC reported 161,392 fatalities caused by COVID-19. Had the long-standing, original guidelines for death reporting been used, there would have only been 9,684 total fatalities due to COVID-19."
"no1: You've also claimed that the number of COVID19 deaths have been exaggerated by about 20X."
That is not true. I never made such a statement.
You keep going on about a crank theory without specifying. What crank theory? Are you sure it is my crank theory and not someone else? You don't seem to be able to distinguish me from other people.
Try to specify without ...[text shortened]... if you are going to allege crank theories for anybody to guess what the heck you are talking about.
Remember that? It's the first post here: https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/cdc-covid-data-manipulation.189211
If you insist on quibbling, you can say you only claimed that COVID19 deaths were exaggerated by more than 16X. Still, you are insisting the US government greatly exaggerated the number of COVID19 deaths just to get people to take vaccines and tests that you claim are deadly to further Bill Gates' nefarious scheme to reduce world population.
That is, the crank basically insane theory that you are peddling.
@metal-brain saidThe way I understand it ........
From the link below:
"But that was put in the government's dataset retrospectively after they changed the way deaths were recorded, meaning today is the first time the daily coronavirus update has reported zero deaths."
https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/uk-records-first-day-with-zero-deaths-from-covid-in-10-months-but-new-cases-up-by-30
How did they chang ...[text shortened]... be down to a lag in reporting following the Bank Holiday weekend"
Is it really zero? I doubt it.
Vaccines prevent serious illness and hospitalization.
They do not prevent infection.
There is a slight increase (someone call it a beginning of another wave) in infections.
But when a vaccinated person is infected, that person is almost certain to not become a death statistic, and very unlikely to be hospitalized.
Additionally, with the vaccinations, restrictions are loosened thus leading to an increase in infection without serious consequences.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong in any aspect.