Has it ever occured to you that much of what our (U.S.A.) government
does is pii one segment of our society against another and mainly
it is done to push an agenda where the government gains more and
more control over our lives?
Shouldn't the main push of the govenment be to level the playing
field so everyone is treated equally? I do mean everyone, and I do
mean treat them all the same way from taxes to rights!
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayHas it ever occured to you that much of what our (U.S.A.) government
Has it ever occured to you that much of what our (U.S.A.) government
does is pii one segment of our society against another and mainly
it is done to push an agenda where the government gains more and
more control over our lives?
Shouldn't the main push of the govenment be to level the playing
field so everyone is treated equally? I do mean everyone, and I do
mean treat them all the same way from taxes to rights!
Kelly
does is pii one segment of our society against another and mainly
it is done to push an agenda where the government gains more and
more control over our lives?
I believe that it has occurred to most of the world by now. You're kind of lagging behind.
Originally posted by scherzoYea right, but the thing is people are falling for it left and right
[b]Has it ever occured to you that much of what our (U.S.A.) government
does is pii one segment of our society against another and mainly
it is done to push an agenda where the government gains more and
more control over our lives?
I believe that it has occurred to most of the world by now. You're kind of lagging behind.[/b]
quite literally regardless are they not? It isn't that I haven't figured this
out a long time ago either, but choose to make a topic of it now.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayThe leaders are, because the leaders, as you have said above, are either supported by the US or crushed by the US. Either way, there's not really any way for the government to acknowledge that there is something very, very wrong with American foreign policy.
Yea right, but the thing is people are falling for it left and right
quite literally regardless are they not? It isn't that I haven't figured this
out a long time ago either, but choose to make a topic of it now.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJay... I do mean treat them all the same way from taxes to rights!
Has it ever occured to you that much of what our (U.S.A.) government
does is pii one segment of our society against another and mainly
it is done to push an agenda where the government gains more and
more control over our lives?
Shouldn't the main push of the govenment be to level the playing
field so everyone is treated equally? I do mean everyone, and I do
mean treat them all the same way from taxes to rights!
Kelly
What does that mean?
Originally posted by KazetNagorraIt means that people all should have the same rules equally applied
[b]... I do mean treat them all the same way from taxes to rights!
What does that mean?[/b]
to each person, one should not be put upon for another, each person
should be made to contribute as they can the same way so that
everyone has a stake in the future of their country.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayAgreed. Let's make it so.
It means that people all should have the same rules equally applied
to each person, one should not be put upon for another, each person
should be made to contribute as they can the same way so that
everyone has a stake in the future of their country.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayAnd how would you enforce this, legally?
It means that people all should have the same rules equally applied
to each person, one should not be put upon for another, each person
should be made to contribute as they can the same way so that
everyone has a stake in the future of their country.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayCan't see how it can be done in a corporatist system (and I am not just talking about big companies) which is all about various sets of rules and various sets of standards, resulting from the manouvering of corporate entities (by which I mean unions, environmental groups, military, multinationals, churches, bureaucracies, regional and local legislatures, regional and local administrations, media, and so on). These entities are not pushing for one set of rules, one set of standards - although they may claim to be - they are instead seeking to defend and advance themselves in relation to the others or in collaboration with others (cf: elected politicians > arms industry > the military). To dismantle the corporatist system means a complete overhaul of education, political philosophy, the redefinition of what it means to be an individual, and the end of the tyranny of ideology. That's what's so hard about achieving what you want to achieve.
One set of rules, one set of standards, what is so hard about that?
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Originally posted by KellyJayI like what Thomas Jefferson said.
Has it ever occured to you that much of what our (U.S.A.) government
does is pii one segment of our society against another and mainly
it is done to push an agenda where the government gains more and
more control over our lives?
Shouldn't the main push of the govenment be to level the playing
field so everyone is treated equally? I do mean everyone, and I do
mean treat them all the same way from taxes to rights!
Kelly
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yeild and government to gain ground".
So here we see that nature of mankind that Jefferson is coneying which is that man seeks power, secures power, and then looks for more. What we see now then should not be surprising. In short, to counter this phenomenon the masses must fight for the power that government seeks or surrender it. I like what Samuel Adams said which is somewhat related to what I am trying to say.
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contet for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may prosperity forget that ye were our countrymen."
I suppose in todays world he would have added free health care and social security in his little quip. LOL.
Originally posted by dryhumpIf he were to tax everybody into "servitude", then there's no reason to believe that current differentials and power relationships (i.e. those in servitude and those benefitting from servitude) would change.
The Candyman will tax everybody into servitude, then we will all be in the same boat.
We are all in the same boat. That's what you rightwingers just never seem to get into your boggle eyed heads! 🙂
Originally posted by KellyJayBut that doesn't achieve what you're trying to achieve. Example:
One set of rules, one set of standards, what is so hard about that?
Kelly
Person A: single mother of 3 kids, works 70 hours a week to support her family.
Person B: lazy houswife with rich husband, kids are grown up. Can work, but can't be bothered. Would rather be a burden on society. Decadent lifestyle.
Clearly, person A is contributing more to society than person B, even if the same legal framework applies to both.