Originally posted by KazetNagorraThis is a load of crap.
Yes, it can. If all housewives with grown-up children (try to) find a job, thousands of lives will be saved in a variety of ways, and the quality of life of the general populace would increase as well.
How are lives going to be saved if the housewife does extra work?
Housewifes don't own anything to society simply because they don't work outside their house.
I don't know why you think that way, and I don't know what difference it makes, or would you like to have a law that enforces extra work for housewifes?
Originally posted by generalissimoWell, for example, they could work as nurses, in old people's home's, whatever. These sectors tend to have a shortage of people. More generally, the economic impulse would free up more resources for science and innovation, advancing mankind in general.
This is a load of crap.
How are lives going to be saved if the housewife does extra work?
Housewifes don't own anything to society simply because they don't work outside their house.
I don't know why you think that way, and I don't know what difference it makes, or would you like to have a law that enforces extra work for housewifes?
Originally posted by KazetNagorraThe idea of working with some old-timers who can't eat on their own is not very attractive, plus you can't force people to do it.
Well, for example, they could work as nurses, in old people's home's, whatever. These sectors tend to have a shortage of people. More generally, the economic impulse would free up more resources for science and innovation, advancing mankind in general.
I don't even know why there are old people's homes, I think old people should live in their own houses.
Originally posted by generalissimoWhy do you keep bringing up this force thing? Once again, I don't want to force housewives to do anything. Stop evading the subject and bring in some arguments.
The idea of working with some old-timers who can't eat on their own is not very attractive, plus you can't force people to do it.
I don't even know why there are old people's homes, I think old people should live in their own houses.
Originally posted by KazetNagorrathen they would no longer be housewives. and they will have to hire someone to take care of the house and the children, which was the reason they became housewives in the first place. they may not like to take care of the elders. they may not have the skill for it.
Well, for example, they could work as nurses, in old people's home's, whatever. These sectors tend to have a shortage of people. More generally, the economic impulse would free up more resources for science and innovation, advancing mankind in general.
the thing is, we are all making choices. sure, someone who works two jobs is pissed at the heir who doesn't have one because daddy took care of that. life suks, some people have money and some don't. but are you saying that after all taxes have been payed, after all that is required from every citizen has been dealt with, the heir has no right to spend his money and his life as he sees fit? will you dictate him what to do? will there be a labour office where every citizen is required to report for job assignment? is this the kind of society you are wanting?
the thing that you do not want to accept is that we do not live to work, we work so we may live. but if our needs are taken care of, you may not work at all. the state cannot demand you work because that would be forced labour, a sort of payed slavery. the state can demand you pay your taxes and thats it.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraWhy do you keep bringing up this force thing?
Why do you keep bringing up this force thing? Once again, I don't want to force housewives to do anything. Stop evading the subject and bring in some arguments.
Because I don't get your point, are just saying you want housewifes to work for no reason, or do you want to change people's minds and get housewifes to do extra work?
If you don't want to force anyone then what do you want to do?
Again, why do you think me, you, or anybody owns something to society simply for not doing extra work?
Originally posted by KazetNagorraYes, house wives, after raising their children, should go back to school on the people's dime and become nurses....as long as they Don't have jobs while they study.
Well, for example, they could work as nurses, in old people's home's, whatever. These sectors tend to have a shortage of people. More generally, the economic impulse would free up more resources for science and innovation, advancing mankind in general.
GRANNY.
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Originally posted by KazetNagorraI asked if you thought something SHOULD be done about it. It get's to generalissimo's question about force. Do you think some law SHOULD be enacted to try to get from these housewives whatever it is you think they owe you?
Various things can be done about it, but that was never the topic of debate, at least not from my point of view.
If so you are a totalitarian lunatic. If not, then even if these lazy housewives do nothing but watch soaps and pleasure themselves all day, they are still morally superior to you because they are using their time just as productively as you have in this thread, AND they know how to mind their own business.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraShe could be picking her belly button lint out of her belly all day I do
So what is the valuable thing the housewives (without young children) are doing?
not care. If she is earning an income it gets taxed like everyone else,
if she is spending money when she buys something it gets taxed like
everyone else. You want to put a value on her life, I'm telling you that
you have no right to. If she is drawing from the public till she should
be in some fashion adding to it, if she isn't she doesn't come into
play.
Kelly
Originally posted by KazetNagorraThe husband is working, he is supporting her so he is doing more than
They are taking out and not putting in. I've explained extensively in this thread why this is the case.
what he would do if he were by himself. As such she actually is causing
more to be done and is in a small way adding to society, if her
husband or whatever is making great money and using it to keep her
happy and cared for, more is being done than someone who is just
working for living taking care of only themselves if they have no desire
to have really nice things or drive to improve their lot in life.
Kelly