@suzianne saidThis is average. Some folks might have had a $20,000 increase, while others, $2000.00. This is an average, they are govt numbers. Surely you cannot deny that people would have naturally had more money in their pockets with the tax cuts? As the warden said in Shawshank Redemption, Are you being obtuse?
Where's my $6500?
@suzianne saidSuzianne, dear child, it has been proven that Biden lied, he flat lied, when he said he had not spoken to Hunter about business. He is a liar. BTW why do you use the word liar in every post?
Trump hasn't done squat, except remove us from treaties and obligations and made us a laughing stock in the world.
Oh, wait. No, I take that back, he does do ONE thing.
He lies. Incessantly. If his mouth is moving, he's lying.
@suzianne saidBiden ;doesn't care about himself? The Bidens have yet to deny that Hunter Biden made millions trading on his father's status. And, the Joe got some of that dirty money. Do you think he should give it back? You know, trading on his name? Which one of you jumped this morning that Ivanka made a deal in the name of the Trump entities? Jesus. I'm going to play golf. Have at it.
Trump cares about nothing and no one except himself.
Biden cares about America and believes in America.
It may sound simplistic to you, but, IMO, this is a minimum requirement for the President of the US. A requirement that Trump spectacularly fails.
@averagejoe1 saidStill sticking to the Republican fairy tales?
Biden ;doesn't care about himself? The Bidens have yet to deny that Hunter Biden made millions trading on his father's status. And, the Joe got some of that dirty money. Do you think he should give it back? You know, trading on his name? Which one of you jumped this morning that Ivanka made a deal in the name of the Trump entities? Jesus. I'm going to play golf. Have at it.
No, I understand that you have nothing else.
But the lies are really getting old. And thin. Old and thin.
@averagejoe1 saidWhy do you have such a low bar to meet for something to be "proven" to you, and yet you can't see what the entire civilized world sees? Trump is the personification of everything that is wrong with America.
Suzianne, dear child, it has been proven that Biden lied, he flat lied, when he said he had not spoken to Hunter about business. He is a liar. BTW why do you use the word liar in every post?
@suzianne saidThat Biden is a better option than Trump is not debatable. This is obvious.
Trump cares about nothing and no one except himself.
Biden cares about America and believes in America.
It may sound simplistic to you, but, IMO, this is a minimum requirement for the President of the US. A requirement that Trump spectacularly fails.
The fact remains that Dems made a horrible choice in picking Biden, out of a slew of far more palatable choices.
@vivify saidMore palatable to other Democrats, yes.
That Biden is a better option than Trump is not debatable. This is obvious.
The fact remains that Dems made a horrible choice in picking Biden, out of a slew of far more palatable choices.
I remind you that Biden is a moderate. Just like Obama, the last democrat president voted for by large numbers of Republicans.
Republicans really don't have to hold their noses so tightly to vote for Biden. Imagine how many Republicans will vote for Biden. Or how many have already voted for Biden. Now consider how many of those same Republicans would cross over for Bernie Sanders. Or Elizabeth Warren. Or Kamala Harris. Or... or... or... You get my point.
@averagejoe1 saidCite some evidence to back that up. Otherwise, it's only your fabricated opinion.
This is average. Some folks might have had a $20,000 increase, while others, $2000.00. This is an average, they are govt numbers. Surely you cannot deny that people would have naturally had more money in their pockets with the tax cuts? As the warden said in Shawshank Redemption, Are you being obtuse?
@averagejoe1 saidThe tax cuts were meant for the wealthy. That some of it may have percolated down to ordinary Americans is pure luck. The poorest Americans haven't seen any of it.
This is average. Some folks might have had a $20,000 increase, while others, $2000.00. This is an average, they are govt numbers. Surely you cannot deny that people would have naturally had more money in their pockets with the tax cuts? As the warden said in Shawshank Redemption, Are you being obtuse?
I work for the government. I haven't seen any of it. My taxes haven't gone down at all. If they have, then my added expenses because of it cancelled it out. But, you see, that's my point. I'm not wealthy. I haven't seen any of it.
@suzianne saidI guess you're right. As far as appealing to the masses, Biden makes more sense.
More palatable to other Democrats, yes.
I remind you that Biden is a moderate. Just like Obama, the last democrat president voted for by large numbers of Republicans.
Republicans really don't have to hold their noses so tightly to vote for Biden. Imagine how many Republicans will vote for Biden. Or how many have already voted for Biden. Now consider how many of tho ...[text shortened]... r for Bernie Sanders. Or Elizabeth Warren. Or Kamala Harris. Or... or... or... You get my point.
@handyandy saidI'll rephrase. (ha, thought you were Suzianne for a moment).... Americans had an AVERAGE increase of $6500.oo in income over the Trump presidency.
Cite some evidence to back that up. Otherwise, it's only your fabricated opinion.
@vivify saidWow.
It's really frustrating pretending that Biden is a good candidate just to beat Trump. It's even more frustrating that Democrats needlessly put themselves in the exact same situation as 2016, where we yet again have to choose between the lesser of two evils.
Joe Biden is a TERRIBLE candidate. Just like Hillary, his only electable feature is that he's not Trump.
THANK YOU!
We finally agree on something.
Biden is simply awful. as is his running mate Kamala.
@suzianne saidBiden is not a moderate, he is an opportunist who espouses whatever cause he thinks people want to hear. He changes his stance on things like people change socks.
I remind you that Biden is a moderate.
He is also a liar that has become wealthy through graft corruption and influence peddling.