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  1. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    05 Jan '10 12:21
    The U.S. may have come quite close to using A-Bombs to end the Korean War.

    Would it have been justified?

    Would it have ended the war?

    What would have been the impact on geopolitics in the 1950s, 1960s and beyond?

    Speculate.
  2. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    05 Jan '10 12:25
    Didn't the Soviets had nuclear bombs at the end of the 40s? Maybe a few, but still...
  3. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    05 Jan '10 14:58
    Originally posted by FMF
    The U.S. may have come quite close to using A-Bombs to end the Korean War.

    Would it have been justified?

    Would it have ended the war?

    What would have been the impact on geopolitics in the 1950s, 1960s and beyond?

    Speculate.
    IIRC, MacArthur wanted to A-bomb China, the insistence on which eventually got him fired by Truman.

    Justified? Who knows? It would have been a stupid geopolitical though. A-bombing NK or China would have made a permanent (or at least long term) enemy of China, which is never a good strategy. China was not like Japan. They didn't launch a sneak attack on the US navy at anchor and they were not hell bent on asserting their hegemony across the far east. The merely didn't want US soldiers running rampant to their border. Truman showed considerable wisdom while prosecuting the Korean war in dealing as delicately as possible with the Chinese.
  4. Standard member adam warlock
    Baby Gauss
    05 Jan '10 15:21
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Didn't the Soviets had nuclear bombs at the end of the 40s? Maybe a few, but still...
    I don't think so... But I'm not sure on that one.

    Where do you got this from by the way?
  5. 05 Jan '10 15:57
    The Soviet Union first successfully tested a bomb in August 1949, so they'd have had some.
  6. 05 Jan '10 22:04
    Originally posted by FMF
    The U.S. may have come quite close to using A-Bombs to end the Korean War.

    Would it have been justified?

    Would it have ended the war?

    What would have been the impact on geopolitics in the 1950s, 1960s and beyond?

    Speculate.
    I don't suppose anyone from your family was even involved?
    No it wouldn't have been justified.
  7. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    05 Jan '10 23:50
    Originally posted by FMF
    The U.S. may have come quite close to using A-Bombs to end the Korean War.

    Would it have been justified?

    Would it have ended the war?

    What would have been the impact on geopolitics in the 1950s, 1960s and beyond?

    Speculate.
    It probably would have been more militarily justified to use atomic bombs against Communist China at a time when they had just inflicted a severe military defeat on the US and UN forces then it was to massacre Japanese civilians at a time when their country was militarily beaten.
  8. 06 Jan '10 00:07
    Originally posted by FMF
    The U.S. may have come quite close to using A-Bombs to end the Korean War.

    Would it have been justified?

    Would it have ended the war?

    What would have been the impact on geopolitics in the 1950s, 1960s and beyond?

    Speculate.
    It is never justified to use nuklear weapons.
    It is never justified to kill innocent civilians.
    Never!

    Only criminal states use nuklear weapons against civilians!
  9. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    06 Jan '10 00:29
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    It is never justified to use nuklear weapons.
    It is never justified to kill innocent civilians.
    Never!

    Only criminal states use nuklear weapons against civilians!
    The proposals by US military leaders in the Korean War generally called for the use of A-bombs against clearly military targets: troop concentrations, airfields, etc. etc. Would it be "never justified to use nuclear weapons" against such targets?
  10. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    06 Jan '10 01:28
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    I don't suppose anyone from your family was even involved?
    I had an uncle who died in the Korean War.

    Besides, surely 'geopolitics in the 1950s, 1960s and beyond' affected everyone.
  11. 06 Jan '10 01:38
    Originally posted by FMF
    I had an uncle who died in the Korean War.

    Besides, surely 'geopolitics in the 1950s, 1960s and beyond' affected everyone.
    Sorry for your loss, my Dad and Uncle came back.

    I still do not think dropping the bomb would have ben a smart thing,, see above comments, need go no further
  12. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    06 Jan '10 02:02
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    I still do not think dropping the bomb would have ben a smart thing,, see above comments, need go no further
    I suppose I ran away at the mouth in my OP. Too many questions. The interesting question I think is "What would have been the impact on geopolitics in the 1950s, 1960s and beyond? Speculate." And I should have stuck only that out there.
  13. 06 Jan '10 09:22
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    The proposals by US military leaders in the Korean War generally called for the use of A-bombs against clearly military targets: troop concentrations, airfields, etc. etc. Would it be "never justified to use nuclear weapons" against such targets?
    Ask the people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki about their strategic concentration of targets justified their deaths?

    You know, even Iran has strategic concentration of targets in Israel. Have they the right to use theirs? If not, why have any others the right to use theirs?
  14. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    06 Jan '10 09:41
    Originally posted by FMF
    The U.S. may have come quite close to using A-Bombs to end the Korean War.

    Would it have been justified?

    Would it have ended the war?

    What would have been the impact on geopolitics in the 1950s, 1960s and beyond?

    Speculate.
    It's never justified. It's a deliberate attempt to kill civilians. That's illegal.
  15. 06 Jan '10 19:04
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    It's never justified. It's a deliberate attempt to kill civilians. That's illegal.
    agreed,
    man shavixmir, don't take this personal.
    When i see that ugly mug, the song comes to mind.... Red Dress

    Yes I'm drunk but dam your ugly, I'll tell ya something this I know, tomorrow morning I'll be sober, you'll be just as ugly still.

    A REDNECK