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@averagejoe1 said
Trump again. I have noted frankly that you are leaning toward Sonhouse technique and you’re debating. My posting on this thread has to do with the immediate problem that we have at the border and stopping the problem. Would you mind telling all of your followers to discuss the problem at the border and quit talking about Trump. You included?
Idiot, YOU started the thread about Trump's proposed immigration policies in the unlikely event the country is stupid enough to elect him President again. Here's the link you provided in the OP:

https://nypost.com/2023/11/12/news/donald-trump-plotting-massive-immigration-crackdown-report/


@averagejoe1 said
Trump again. I have noted frankly that you are leaning toward Sonhouse technique and you’re debating. My posting on this thread has to do with the immediate problem that we have at the border and stopping the problem. Would you mind telling all of your followers to discuss the problem at the border and quit talking about Trump. You included?
Perhaps you should have thought about the long term consequences of fukking up Central and Southern America in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s.

You created the poverty, now you can share in its mess.

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@no1marauder said
Idiot, YOU started the thread about Trump's proposed immigration policies in the unlikely event the country is stupid enough to elect him President again. Here's the link you provided in the OP:

https://nypost.com/2023/11/12/news/donald-trump-plotting-massive-immigration-crackdown-report/
But my point is that you fellas keep writing about Trump, and I am trying to move you all along and ask you why Biden does not fix the problem. It is like if I buy a farm and find out the dam is broken, then I have to go and fix the dam. Biden has bought this farm and he needs to go fix his dam. Jesus.
Hey, I’ve got it. From now on, I will open all of my Trump post by saying he did everything wrong. So I can then say let us all talk about how Biden should be fixing it Jesus again.

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@averagejoe1 said
But my point is that you fellas keep writing about Trump, and I am trying to move you all along and ask you why Biden does not fix the problem. It is like if I buy a farm and find out the dam is broken, then I have to go and fix the dam. Biden has bought this farm and he needs to go fix his dam. Jesus.
Hey, I’ve got it. From now on, I will open all of my Trump post b ...[text shortened]... everything wrong. So I can then say let us all talk about how Biden should be fixing it Jesus again.
I think it would be nice to encourage immigration by streamlining the asylum process, by granting DREAMERs an easy path to citizenship and taking other measures to welcome such productive newcomers.

I don't agree that they should be treated like vermin because right wingers think they're a little too "swarthy".

BTW, don't start a thread specifically endorsing Donald Trump's proposed policies and then complain about Donald Trump being mentioned.


@no1marauder said
Could you name one immigration law Biden hasn't enforced?

Thanks in advance.

If immigration laws pre-Trump were sufficient, why did he want to build a wall?
I am not going to NexLex and look up the law, this is a friendly bantering site, not a school room or 'gotcha' forum, we just exchange and compare facts.
So here is a short article, I am not interested if it doesn't list statutes and Article2Page4,etc, you can do that. I am too busy watching this market. nirvanna.

EITHER this guy is wrong, or you are. I'm not, myself.

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@jj-adams said
250,000 people a month coming across the border that we know of, and you say it's not open?
250,000 people a month?

Really?

What Metal Brain source are you using for this?

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@AverageJoe1
The point is he already said in public interviews how it will go if re-elected and it does not contain quaint stuff like policy for the people, ONLY revenge, going after his enemies and invoking the insurrection act on day one to use our military to quell protests. Last I heard there was this silly thing about free assembly in that paper we call the constitution but that doesn't matter in the slightest to your god king which while you say you don't LIKE Trump will vote for him no matter what laws he broke or breaks.

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@suzianne said
250,000 people a month?

Really?

What Metal Brain source are you using for this?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/over-quarter-million-migrant-encounters-december-alone-cbp-confirms

Here is your proof. Quarter-milliion, 250K, same thing.

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@suzianne said
250,000 people a month?

Really?

What Metal Brain source are you using for this?
How about the government's own figures?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/09/30/how-many-migrants-crossed-the-border-2023-mexico-venezuela-2022/70979085007/

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
The point is he already said in public interviews how it will go if re-elected and it does not contain quaint stuff like policy for the people, ONLY revenge, going after his enemies and invoking the insurrection act on day one to use our military to quell protests. Last I heard there was this silly thing about free assembly in that paper we call the constitutio ...[text shortened]... g which while you say you don't LIKE Trump will vote for him no matter what laws he broke or breaks.
I am not going to read all this stuff he said, but Sonhouse, generally speaking, can it be that bad? Because, he has tremendous support to be president. I know of your personal animosity, we get all that, I have a brother in law who says he will NEVER vote for Trump.
But you and my bro, pleasse get away from said animosity and tell us, as devil's advocates, what is it about him that people like? Is it the strength which he projects, exactly reverse of the namby-pamby Biden?
Let's get your thoughts on that, could be interesting.

Edit: I seem to remember asking you a similar question a while back, and after your non-responsive answer, , I wrote back and said,,,,aw, shoot, he is just not going to answer.

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@averagejoe1 said
I am not going to read all this stuff he said, but Sonhouse, generally speaking, can it be that bad? Because, he has tremendous support to be president. I know of your personal animosity, we get all that, I have a brother in law who says he will NEVER vote for Trump.
I have a relative that I stopped speaking to for the same reason, but when you ask them what Trump did as president that was so awful they are either speechless or they repeat a bunch of vague insults, like "he's a tyrant he's a racist he's another Hitler blah blah blah".

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@shavixmir said
Perhaps you should have thought about the long term consequences of fukking up Central and Southern America in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s.

You created the poverty, now you can share in its mess.
A great example thread of writing about the past when the USA is on its heels, and needs to be fixed. Yes, neither Biden, nor maybe anyone, , can fix this mess, it may be too late (stock market doesn't think so!), but by God, could Biden even TRY to fix it? We all know we need to wall up the border, and do other things. But He Does Not Try!

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@averagejoe1 said
But my point is that you fellas keep writing about Trump, and I am trying to move you all along and ask you why Biden does not fix the problem. It is like if I buy a farm and find out the dam is broken, then I have to go and fix the dam. Biden has bought this farm and he needs to go fix his dam. Jesus.
Hey, I’ve got it. From now on, I will open all of my Trump post b ...[text shortened]... everything wrong. So I can then say let us all talk about how Biden should be fixing it Jesus again.
I just had a GREAT idea. I re-post this most-fantastic analogy. You know it is perfect, you waffling libs!, but you will not even give me a thumb up? Awmann.

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@no1marauder said
I think it would be nice to encourage immigration by streamlining the asylum process, by granting DREAMERs an easy path to citizenship and taking other measures to welcome such productive newcomers.

I don't agree that they should be treated like vermin because right wingers think they're a little too "swarthy".

BTW, don't start a thread specifically endorsing Donald Trump's proposed policies and then complain about Donald Trump being mentioned.
Right, I am all in. Right now it is an overflowing cesspool. Terrorists and criminals are vermin, just for the record. So have a plan, a system, to approve them or turn them the hell around at the border.
Curious, a nice-idea post, but tell us......why do you say an 'easy' path to citizenship.?? Curious indeed. Do you tell your child's teacher to make the exams easy so that they will pass? Am I the only one here to see liberal-eze slowly (quickly, actually) overtaking our society.? Your idea of 'easy' is tantamount to dumbing down America.

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@averagejoe1 said
A great example thread of writing about the past when the USA is on its heels, and needs to be fixed. Yes, neither Biden, nor maybe anyone, , can fix this mess, it may be too late (stock market doesn't think so!), but by God, could Biden even TRY to fix it? We all know we need to wall up the border, and do other things. But He Does Not Try!
If you beat your kid when he was a kid and the kid grows up to be an anti-social psychopath... there is nothing you can do.

You made the bed, all you can do is lay in it.
And pay for the bloody damages.

You seem to be all anti-union, pro-invading foreign countries, protecting American interests, etc.
When that's your agenda, these are the rewards you reap.

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