With the UN deadline for compliance in forcing Iran to stop enriching uranium, I imagine things are pretty tense for president Mahmoud right now.
Knowing that the UN is in the brink of talking about sanctions that will cause suffering for some Iranians, I don't see how Mahmoud will be able to stand up under the pressure and anxiety.
Anyone think he'll have a nervous break down in the next 48 hours?
Originally posted by orfeoI think he is laughing in his boots. The sanctions being proposed will be shrugged off while he continues his quest for A bombs. He was deeply involved in the hostage situation at the embassy in '79, was deeply involved with Hezbollah killing a couple hundred american soldiers in the barracks attack, gave hundreds of millions to Hez and supplied with tens of thousands of short range rockets. Oh yes, a definite peace monger for sure.
Have you seen a lot of world leaders have nervous breakdowns in office, or do you somehow think there's something 'special' about this one?
Originally posted by sasquatch672Ain't that the truth!
He he is one crazy sumbitch. I don't think there's any doubt about that. Trouble is, we can't really do anything to him because Bush screwed Iraq up so royally.
But we have kids like Abejnood thinking Iran is only after peaceful uses for nuclear energy, like they really are thinking about that, sitting on one of the worlds biggest deposits of oil, eh.
Originally posted by sonhouse(Sigh). The Iranian nuclear program predates the Islamic Revolution; the reasons for developing a civilian nuclear program are quite logical having to do with comparative advantage and refining capability.
Ain't that the truth!
But we have kids like Abejnood thinking Iran is only after peaceful uses for nuclear energy, like they really are thinking about that, sitting on one of the worlds biggest deposits of oil, eh.
EDIT: Here's a brief overview: http://www.turkishweekly.net/comments.php?id=1786
Originally posted by sasquatch672Where's that talk - at the Project for a New American Century? Or on Limbaugh, Hannity and Colmes, etc. etc. etc.?
There is talk that he is prepared to sacrifice half of Iran - people, land, infrastructure - to destroy Israel. Someone needs to bring that man a gas-and-lye with a twist.
Here's some more detailed history:
According to declassified confidential US Government documents posted on the Digital National Security Archive (see the article, "The US-Iran Nuclear Dispute: Dr Mohamed El Baradei's Mission Possible to Iran," by Drs. A. Etemad and N. Meshkati, published on July 13, 2003, in the Iran News), in the mid-1970s, the US encouraged Iran to expand her non-oil energy base, suggested to the Shah that Iran needed not one but SEVERAL nuclear reactors to acquire the electrical capacity that the Stanford Research Institute had proposed, and expressed interest in the US companies participating in Iran's nuclear energy projects. Building these reactors, and selling the weapons that the Shah was procuring from the US in the 1970s, were, of course, a good way for the US to recover the cost of the oil that she was buying from Iran.
Since the Shah never read or heard an American proposal that he did not like, he started an ambitious program for building many (presumably as many as TWENTY THREE) nuclear reactors. Hence, his government awarded a contract to Kraftwerk Union (a subsidiary of Siemens) of (West) Germany to construct two Siemens 1,200-megawatt nuclear reactors at Bushehr. The work for doing so began in 1974. In 1975, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology signed a contract with the AEOI for providing training for the first cadre of Iranian nuclear engineers, and the Iranian-Indian nuclear cooperation treaty was also signed (India is now a nuclear power). In addition, the Nuclear Technology Center at Esfahan (Isfahan) was founded in the mid-1970s with the French assistance in order to provide training for the personnel that would be working with the Bushehr reactors. The Esfahan Center currently operates four small nuclear research reactors, all supplied by China.
According to the same declassified document mentioned above, in an address to the symposium, "The US and Iran, An Increasing Partnership," held in October 1977, Mr. Sydney Sober, a representative of the US State Department, declared that the Shah's government was going to purchase EIGHT nuclear reactors from the US for generating electricity. On July 10, 1978, only seven months before the victory of the Islamic Revolution in Iran, the final draft of the US-Iran Nuclear Energy Agreement was signed. The agreement was supposed to facilitate cooperation in the field of nuclear energy and to govern the export and transfer of equipment and material to Iran's nuclear energy program. Iran was also to receive American technology and help in searching for uranium deposits.
http://www.payvand.com/news/03/oct/1015.html
The whole article is worth a read.
Originally posted by techsouthI don't see it that way at all. I think he is having the time of his life. Loves the attention and is a natural born performer. He looks to me like being on the world stage is what he was born to do.
With the UN deadline for compliance in forcing Iran to stop enriching uranium, I imagine things are pretty tense for president Mahmoud right now.
Knowing that the UN is in the brink of talking about sanctions that will cause suffering for some Iranians, I don't see how Mahmoud will be able to stand up under the pressure and anxiety.
Anyone think he'll have a nervous break down in the next 48 hours?
Originally posted by DelmerWell perhaps his temperment enables him to thrive in such circumstances. Better him than me.
I don't see it that way at all. I think he is having the time of his life. Loves the attention and is a natural born performer. He looks to me like being on the world stage is what he was born to do.
But personally I am just plain giddy at the buzz in the air at such a historic moment in world history. I find it difficult to concentrate on my job, and on my chess moves.
I'm old enough to remember a few big days in world history, both good and bad. I remember the day the space shuttle challenger blew up, the day the Berlin Wall came down, and the day Elvis was reported to have died (I'm a little skeptical about that one). Although I was very young at the time, I have faint memories of the first man stepping on the moon.
I am not old enough, but can just imagine what it was like the day America heard that Kennedy had been shot, or the day Pearl Harbor was bombed. I can just imagine how the world reacted when the Titanic sunk. It would be truly amazing to be alive in the time of Alexander the Great.
The point is that history is sparsely dotted with relatively few major events that give meaning to all the day to day little events and for the rest of time these events are remembered and studied and discussed. It is a privilege to be alive for some of these great historic events.
Let's not take for granted the spectacular events we get to witness as contemporaries. You'd have to be living in a cave to miss this, but even though we watch, we sometimes fail to appreciate the magnitude. Do you all realize that today, 31 August 2006 the UN is literally on the brink of discussing sanctions against Iran? I'm not saying this is all good or that it is all bad, but I just wouldn't want to be in Mahmoud's shoes on a day like today.
Originally posted by no1marauderNever let the facts get in the way of a good story, no1. You'll never sell advertising slots that way.
(Sigh). The Iranian nuclear program predates the Islamic Revolution; the reasons for developing a civilian nuclear program are quite logical having to do with comparative advantage and refining capability.
EDIT: Here's a brief overview: http://www.turkishweekly.net/comments.php?id=1786
Originally posted by sonhouseOriginally posted by no1marauder
Ain't that the truth!
But we have kids like Abejnood thinking Iran is only after peaceful uses for nuclear energy, like they really are thinking about that, sitting on one of the worlds biggest deposits of oil, eh.
(Sigh). The Iranian nuclear program predates the Islamic Revolution; the reasons for developing a civilian nuclear program are quite logical having to do with comparative advantage and refining capability.
EDIT: Here's a brief overview: http://www.turkishweekly.net/comments.php?id=1786
and kids like no1marauder ....
Originally posted by no1marauder1974, 1975, 1977, 1978 ...
Here's some more detailed history:
According to declassified confidential US Government documents posted on the Digital National Security Archive (see the article, "The US-Iran Nuclear Dispute: Dr Mohamed El Baradei's Mission Possible to Iran," by Drs. A. Etemad and N. Meshkati, published on July 13, 2003, in the Iran News), in the mid-1970s, the US e ...[text shortened]... p://www.payvand.com/news/03/oct/1015.html
The whole article is worth a read.
so what?
Originally posted by zeeblebotTry to follow the conversation. Go back and read sonhouse's second post. Now read my response. You'll notice that they are related in some way, but how? Can a right-winger figure out what the purpose of a Debate forum is?
1974, 1975, 1977, 1978 ...
so what?
I doubt it, but everybody else stay tuned.