Originally posted by iraqi insurgentIn a way, you're right.
"Terrorists continually hit soft targets, mostly US, UK, AU etc etc. They do that becaues they are cowards"
What absolute bollocks.....
The USA and Western Allies have Nuclear weapons, Chemical weapons, Biological weapons,
Aircraft-carriers, Submarines, Battleships, Frigets, Destroyers, Landing craft,
Cruise-missiles, Drones, Intercontinent ...[text shortened]... WHAT PART OF THAT LOT IS SOFT *****
ONLY THE BRAVEST OF THE BRAVE WOULD TAKE ON THAT FOE
It's a hopeless fight from your point of view. What doesn't follow in this logic is the part about having your children blow themselves up.
Why the children?
Where are the Palistinian men while 12 yr olds are in the street carrying the fight?
They're already beat, they just don't have the good sense to lay down.
When the men can't .. or won't fight the women and children will be at the mercy of your enemy. This is why I said i'd get my women and children to safety before I went after them ... but then I guess women don't count for much in this culture, and adolescent boys are good to distract the enemy .. while the men hide behind the little girls.
Originally posted by spruce112358Why would I want anything less for them than they want for me?
If that's your only issue, why don't you send the Palestinians some arms? Nothing fancy -- shoulder-launched rockets, heavy machine guns, recoiless rifles.
Because if all you've got is Qassam rockets and suicide bombers -- that's not much to go on, is it? A group might give up if that's all they had.
Unless they were really determined to win. In which case they would go on fighting with rocks if necessary.
Death, right?
So no, I won't be arming any Palistinians anytime soon.
A "group" might give up, but a single man on a mission won't.
A "group" might sell out it's own people too ... hint hint.
They aren't determined to win. They could have won the peace a long time ago if they so chose. These people are at the mercy of and depending on these same sons they raised to hate.
Now they reap the leadership they have produced.
Originally posted by Rajk999They already tried that. Israel won.
Terrorists continually hit soft targets, mostly US, UK, AU etc etc. They do that becaues they are cowards and cannot hit their real enemy Israel. If they combine their forces they will gather enough gumption to take on their real opponent instead of pussyfooting around and annoying the rest of the world.
The Palestinian problem cannot ever be resolved by ...[text shortened]... th. I will give you 3 guesses who is going to win such a battle, but you only going to need one.
Originally posted by PeachyPlease don't equate a nationality with a religion. A large minority of Palestinians aren't Muslims.
Palestinians (Muslims) don't believe that God promised that land to us.
They are defending their homes, but more importantly the mosque in Jerusalem.
Apart from that I more or less agree.
I'd disagree that defence of a mosque is more important than people's homes.
Originally posted by Rajk999Who will win? God,of course!
Terrorists continually hit soft targets, mostly US, UK, AU etc etc. They do that becaues they are cowards and cannot hit their real enemy Israel. If they combine their forces they will gather enough gumption to take on their real opponent instead of pussyfooting around and annoying the rest of the world.
The Palestinian problem cannot ever be resolved by ...[text shortened]... th. I will give you 3 guesses who is going to win such a battle, but you only going to need one.
Originally posted by knightwestThat ahole must have believed in the Right to Bear Arms.
I have lived in London ever since I was 5 years old, nigh on 24 years now. Before that I lived in India.
I was born in Zurich to a swiss mother and hold Swiss nationality. I also speak the language. My national security number is ......
I was saddened when the bear was shot. He was in the papers for months, and then suddenly someone whacked him.
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Originally posted by jammerThats presumming you have a safe place to send them.
First i'd get my women and children to a safe place. then i'd get my gear together and move out into the bush.
Then i'd start the killing.
You aren't saying these people don't have choices are you?
You aren't saying suicide bombing of innocents is a good "plan" are you?
Not too bright to start a gunfight .. and use your own children as a shield.
No .. "men" who send the children out to do the fighting while they hide in the Mosque.
And also presumming you have a bush to go to, in the West bank / Gaza their are very few places to go.
But the bottom line is that you would fight, so why be surprised when the P's fight back ?
If you fight then your willing to go to whatever means you have to presumable.
As far as they are concerned, they (P people) do not have a choice and see no future, hence the bombing and killing.
The killing of innocent is never good (I firmly beleive that)
But then again I trying to explain their view to you.
If your innocent family members are killed when Israil targets Hamas leaders (and say your child happens to die when the missle lands on the car that is carrying the Hamas leader and he is not in the car) can you honestly say that you would not want to kill as many people on the other side (innocent or not) ?
To put this into context, off all the bombing and killing, how many times have they used kids ? Very few I think...its not honourable (I agree) or correct in my view, but for them its another tatic, logic being that soliders would probably not search a kid as much as a adult and they would rather see their children die then live like animals, bascially they are desporate
Israil has a mulit-million dollar budget (with the backing of the US through funding) for jets, guns, bombs, spy etc etc, they the P's have very little, so they will use any means they have to strike at Israil.
Such is the nature of conflict when things like this happen
As I meantioned before, its not just one sides fault, both have fanatics and both need to realise that "eye for an eye" means everyone is blind