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@wajoma saidYou never are. So, keep your joking, mocking mug out of discussions about serious matters, why don't you? There's enough banter for you kiwis to yap about whether a bat should count as a bird. No need for you to get your disgusting rocks off about someone who got killed.
I wasn't serious,
@Shallow-Blue
So is Alec a creepy liar or a lying creep? We should settle this one immediately......
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@wajoma saidIf you're an actor, no, you do not.
I wasn't serious, you're almost as dumb as kev bragging about being the class dunce.
I'll ask again before wasting anymore time on this, Someone hands you a gun tells you to point it at another person and pull the trigger.
Do you check it yourself?
Edit: You see the awkward position this puts suzi in, she says no and admits to being as dumb as kev, or she says yes and throws baldwin under the bus where he belongs.
There are professionals on set who know guns better than most actors, and they're hired to keep this stuff in check. They also have reputations and they know a lot of the set safety is on their shoulders. ADs should never be taking that authority on themselves.
Like any activity where there are union jobs, everyone who has a responsibility for safety has their job to do. They should be allowed to do this job without being superceded by idiot ADs or anyone else not sanctioned to actually DO that job, including the actors themselves.
Now stop asking idiot questions and admit you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.
@sonhouse saidClearly, a gun won't fire without the trigger being pulled, unless it's dropped with another force (in that case gravity and impact) acting on the hammer, so Baldwin saying he didn't pull the trigger is lying.
@Shallow-Blue
So is Alec a creepy liar or a lying creep? We should settle this one immediately......
But this shouldn't even be the issue. The issue is the gun being loaded and being handed to Baldwin without being checked by the prop gun person.
The person at fault is the person handing the gun to Baldwin and telling him it was safe when it clearly wasn't.
@suzianne saidI agree. John Schneider claimed a Colt pistol like that cannot be fired unless the trigger is cocked. Was Baldwin handed a pre-cocked gun? I heard he was, but I don't know if that is true.
They should have waited and sued the actual person at fault. The assistant director, who was so exasperated by delays on the set that he just grabbed a prop gun off the prop cart and told Baldwin it was safe without checking it and without consulting with the prop person whose cart it was. I do not understand why the AD still hasn't been asked the hard questions about his actions that day.
@suzianne saidYour posts are actually well reasoned lately. I welcome the change.
Clearly, a gun won't fire without the trigger being pulled, unless it's dropped with another force (in that case gravity and impact) acting on the hammer, so Baldwin saying he didn't pull the trigger is lying.
But this shouldn't even be the issue. The issue is the gun being loaded and being handed to Baldwin without being checked by the prop gun person.
The person ...[text shortened]... t fault is the person handing the gun to Baldwin and telling him it was safe when it clearly wasn't.
@metal-brain saidomg, I must be going insane.
Your posts are actually well reasoned lately. I welcome the change.
Help! Help!
@metal-brain saidYes, this gun was a replica of a Colt model made in 1873. Colt did not start making double-action revolvers until 1877. So this gun was a single-action and must be cocked to be fired.
I agree. John Schneider claimed a Colt pistol like that cannot be fired unless the trigger is cocked. Was Baldwin handed a pre-cocked gun? I heard he was, but I don't know if that is true.
But even an idiot AD wouldn't cock a gun before handing to an actor, safe or not. Doing so is distinctly UNsafe.
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@metal-brain saidThen he's an idiot.
John Schneider claimed a Colt pistol like that cannot be fired unless the trigger is cocked.
I heard he was, but I don't know if that is true.
And you still have an absolute opinion about it, so you're even worse of an idiot.
@shallow-blue saidWhat suzi said.
Then he's an idiot.I heard he was, but I don't know if that is true.
And you still have an absolute opinion about it, so you're even worse of an idiot.
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I guess it was Baldwin. Mr. smart alec.
Baldwin told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos that he cocked the gun that fatally shot the cinematographer for his unfinished film Rust — but insisted that he did not pull the trigger.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/12/03/alec-baldwin-admits-he-cocked-the-gun-before-fatal-rust-set-shooting/
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@suzianne saidBruce LEE'S son also died on set.
Clearly, a gun won't fire without the trigger being pulled, unless it's dropped with another force (in that case gravity and impact) acting on the hammer, so Baldwin saying he didn't pull the trigger is lying.
But this shouldn't even be the issue. The issue is the gun being loaded and being handed to Baldwin without being checked by the prop gun person.
The person ...[text shortened]... t fault is the person handing the gun to Baldwin and telling him it was safe when it clearly wasn't.
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@sonhouse saidI wanna' know too.... 😆
@Shallow-Blue
So is Alec a creepy liar or a lying creep? We should settle this one immediately......
@sonhouse saidBaldwin told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos that he cocked the gun that fatally shot the cinematographer for his unfinished film Rust — but insisted that he did not pull the trigger.
@Suzianne
Just take your meds and everything will turn out ok🙂
MH just trotted out a Breitbart site. I believe them don't you🙂
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/12/03/alec-baldwin-admits-he-cocked-the-gun-before-fatal-rust-set-shooting/
You don't have to like breitbart to watch the video of Alec saying he cocked the gun. The source is ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos. Don't kill the messenger.