@techsouth saidHurt feelings really?
He is charged a billion dollars for hurting people's feelings using knowingly false information. That is literally what the news industry does every day.
OJ Simpson paid $33.5 million for actually killing someone.
Is that how you assess the parents of murdered children getting death threats for lying about their grief, can I assume your a loyal listener.
@kevcvs57 saidNever heard of Alex Jones until recently. I would say he sound despicable, but that would be just repeating what almost EVERYONE else is saying. I feel no need to do that to prove my virtue.
Hurt feelings really?
Is that how you assess the parents of murdered children getting death threats for lying about their grief, can I assume your a loyal listener.
Do you apply the same standards. Person X says something false, and that seemingly results in person Y making a death threat to person Z. Therefore person X is horrible. Person X deserves punishment with no upper limit on dollar amount.
Is that the standard you want to apply? If so, are you willing to whole-heartedly embrace that standard everywhere in which it could be applied?
I'd like you to agree or disagree with that standard before I look for the numerous cases in a country of 330 million people where death threats occur.
@shavixmir
I vote for shipping him to the next school shooting and told to go rescue those kids.
Would love to see how long HE lasts in one of those schools.
Obviously he is not a billionaire so it is kind of moot, unless they bring back debtors prison🙂
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@KingDavid403
It IS a billion. There is another settlement he has to pay of 45 million or so and the two together are literally a billion dollars. Maybe he could pay it off in gold? A billion in gold is only about 30 tons🙂
Just think, Elon Musk could come up with 6 THOUSAND tons of gold or thereabouts🙂
@techsouth saidWe are talking about a sustained deliberate hate campaign against the parents of murdered children for profit and in support of the gun lobby / multi billion dollar small arms producers.
Never heard of Alex Jones until recently. I would say he sound despicable, but that would be just repeating what almost EVERYONE else is saying. I feel no need to do that to prove my virtue.
Do you apply the same standards. Person X says something false, and that seemingly results in person Y making a death threat to person Z. Therefore person X is horrible. Perso ...[text shortened]... d before I look for the numerous cases in a country of 330 million people where death threats occur.
This was not an off the cuff remark from an ignorant or drunken dip💩.
BTW your virtue signalling to your ultra right wing audience is so blatant I’m surprised you’d bring the hackneyed phrase into play here.
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-Removed-The parents are not expecting to share in a billion dollar payout they were expecting his grotesque business model to be punished to the point of liquidation.
It would though be pleasantly ironic if a parent shot him in the face and then claimed it was a hoax and fat boy Alexa was in fact a crisis actor.
@techsouth saidI disagree! this was political hate speech against victims of the current gun laws and it should be judged as that and grown ups are held responsible for the consequences of their actions.
Never heard of Alex Jones until recently. I would say he sound despicable, but that would be just repeating what almost EVERYONE else is saying. I feel no need to do that to prove my virtue.
Do you apply the same standards. Person X says something false, and that seemingly results in person Y making a death threat to person Z. Therefore person X is horrible. Perso ...[text shortened]... d before I look for the numerous cases in a country of 330 million people where death threats occur.
@kevcvs57 saidWhat exactly are you disagreeing with?
I disagree! this was political hate speech against victims of the current gun laws and it should be judged as that and grown ups are held responsible for the consequences of their actions.
The way I worded the question, "disagreeing" means that person X would NOT be held responsible for actions of person Y. In this case, Alex Jones hurt some feelings, and as some have argued, he caused other people (e.g. persons Y) to do some bad things. If you disagree with my question, then you are saying that someone can be charged $1 billion for only hurting someone else's feelings. Where as OJ Simpson was charged $33 million for two actual deaths.
And I am not trying to tease out a specific opinion about Alex Jones. I kind of already know everyone's opinion on that.
The question is about whether we apply a standard consistently or not.
Are you in favor of consistent standards, or should we decide things by the mood of the mob?
If you are in favor of consistent standards, can you embark on the mental exercise of considering what this case might mean when applied to other cases?
@kevcvs57 saidIs it a crime to do something for a profit? Is it a crime to support a multi billion dollar industry?
We are talking about a sustained deliberate hate campaign against the parents of murdered children for profit and in support of the gun lobby / multi billion dollar small arms producers.
This was not an off the cuff remark from an ignorant or drunken dip💩.
BTW your virtue signalling to your ultra right wing audience is so blatant I’m surprised you’d bring the hackneyed phrase into play here.
The only crime here that I see was "libel", which is not even a criminal matter in all cases and appears to not have been tried that way in this case.
Will any Sandy Hook parent ever go to a job interview and be turned away because the interviewer believed the lied about the shooting? Very unlikely since nearly anyone competent enough to be conducting a job interview will be smart enough to know that Alex Jones was a liar, and probably smart enough to not have been listening to his garbage anyway.
Will any Sandy Hook parents ever be kicked out of their houses because the landlord thought they lied about the shootings? Not likely.
I am seeing no monetary damage to the Sandy Hook parents.
Just hurt feelings. $1 billion for hurt feelings?
I have no sympathy for Alex Jones. But the world is full of people just as bad as him.
I just wonder if we're going to apply this standard consistently. There are LOTS of cases where lairs are saying things that they know is false and is very hurtful.
Do you support ALL of them paying high settlements too?
@techsouth saidThe parents from Sandy Hook were receiving death threats by people who believe info wars.
Is it a crime to do something for a profit? Is it a crime to support a multi billion dollar industry?
The only crime here that I see was "libel", which is not even a criminal matter in all cases and appears to not have been tried that way in this case.
Will any Sandy Hook parent ever go to a job interview and be turned away because the interviewer believed the lied a ...[text shortened]... t they know is false and is very hurtful.
Do you support ALL of them paying high settlements too?
Sorry. This isn’t some victimless crime. Graves were spoiled by people believing it was a hoax and the parents were in on it.
Imagine that it’s your kid who’s been shot in a school shooting. And people are threatening you and pissing on your kid’s grave.
Jesus christ, sometimes you right-wingers are completely void of rationality.
Yes. I believe that 1 billion is not the right punishment.
But if I was one of those parents, I’d tie the obnoxious fukk up and kick him up and down the street like the leaky puss-filled football he is.
@shavixmir saidHow can anybody make death threats to a person they think does not exist?
The parents from Sandy Hook were receiving death threats by people who believe info wars.
Sorry. This isn’t some victimless crime. Graves were spoiled by people believing it was a hoax and the parents were in on it.
Imagine that it’s your kid who’s been shot in a school shooting. And people are threatening you and pissing on your kid’s grave.
Jesus christ, sometim ...[text shortened]... the obnoxious fukk up and kick him up and down the street like the leaky puss-filled football he is.
If you can find the name of a parent it isn't a hoax, is it?
@techsouth saidHow many of your children have been murdered?
He is charged a billion dollars for hurting people's feelings using knowingly false information.
You should be very careful if you don't understand what has been decided here.
@metal-brain saidSeriously. That’s what you read?
How can anybody make death threats to a person they think does not exist?
If you can find the name of a parent it isn't a hoax, is it?
You clueless fukk.