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While I am not FOR testing on animals for no reason (particularly cosmetics), I understand that the situation we are in is one that we HAVE to test our drug products on animals to try and ensure that they are safe. This isnt always fool proof (as the recent drug trial that went horribly wrong show) but surely, at this moment in time, it is the best we have. Isnt it time that those protesting at Oxford University just shut up and accepted that, if we want medicine, some things are necessary.

As one writer in The Tmes put it (and i'm paraphrasing here) some of these "activitists" are motivated less by a desire for animal welfare than by a hatred of humanity. Pretty well sums it up for me.

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Originally posted by davidtravelling
While I am not FOR testing on animals for no reason (particularly cosmetics), I understand that the situation we are in is one that we HAVE to test our drug products on animals to try and ensure that they are safe. This isnt always fool proof (as the recent drug trial that went horribly wrong show) but surely, at this moment in time, it is the best w ...[text shortened]... s by a desire for animal welfare than by a hatred of humanity. Pretty well sums it up for me.
Why do you hate humanity?

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I dont hate humantity. What the writer was trying to say was that the actions of some of these extremists (I dont know if you are in the UK but over here we have just had a court case where some animal welfare protesters waged a campaign against a guinea pig farm including sending firebombs and kidnapping the dead body of a family member) strikes him as less about animal welfare and more about disliking other people and using animal welfare as a cover.

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Originally posted by davidtravelling
I dont hate humantity. What the writer was trying to say was that the actions of some of these extremists (I dont know if you are in the UK but over here we have just had a court case where some animal welfare protesters waged a campaign against a guinea pig farm including sending firebombs and kidnapping the dead body of a family member) strikes him ...[text shortened]... about animal welfare and more about disliking other people and using animal welfare as a cover.
But you said you hated humanity.

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No i didnt, I said

"As one writer in The Tmes put it (and i'm paraphrasing here) some of these "activitists" are motivated less by a desire for animal welfare than by a hatred of humanity. Pretty well sums it up for me."

Pretty well sums it up for me - i was saying that I agree with his opinion.

Anyway stop being pedantic 😀

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Originally posted by davidtravelling
No i didnt, I said

"As one writer in The Tmes put it (and i'm paraphrasing here) some of these "activitists" are motivated less by a desire for animal welfare than by a hatred of humanity. Pretty well sums it up for me."

Pretty well sums it up for me - i was saying that I agree with his opinion.

Anyway stop being pedantic 😀
I'm all for animal testing.

I don't see why I have to take one to drive a car and they don't!

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Originally posted by 7ate9
why bring this in when STANG just gets booted. are you trying to play god to increase the hatred of him?
i dont know who stang is, i dont really post here.

i just thought that this was the place where we are meant to debate potentially contentious issues.

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again, i dont really post here often so i didnt know that there was one (i was thinking about it on my way to work so i thought i would start a thread on it).

I didnt realise that it would be met with such hostility.....

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Regarding the link above: you can find scientists that support almost anything (i once had a leaflet with scientists supporting creationism). Surely, if animal testing wasnt necessary then the majority of people testing on them would not do so. I mean, its hard to believe that they actually enjoy doing it and if they didnt have to, they wouldnt?

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