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The post that was quoted here has been removedit sounds like he's back tracking and trying to cover the stupidity of his original statements........with some equally stupid statements. the scenario in his head of a scantily clad woman being chased around by an assailant has more in common with a hollywood horror movie than how things happen in the real world. i bet his next bit of advice was 'and young ladies should stop going for late night walks down by the old deserted amusement park'.
Originally posted by joe beyseris that encouraging men with 'women with guns' fetishes to commit rape though? im sure there are a few judges in the world that would still say she was 'asking for it'.
Women should get in the habit of wearing a holster with a stainless 357 revolver. Doesn't much matter then what else she is wearing now does it?
Originally posted by stellspalfieI would say that would depend on weather or not she pulled it out and started squeezing ( the trigger).
is that encouraging men with 'women with guns' fetishes to commit rape though? im sure there are a few judges in the world that would still say she was 'asking for it'.
The post that was quoted here has been removedApparently this is the quote:
Originally posted by JS357Why is that more offensive than saying that if you leave your car unlocked, someone might be tempted to steal the change out of the cup holder?
Apparently this is the quote:
""If you are a young woman on her own trying to walk back home through Gloucester Park, early in the morning in a tight, short skirt and high shoes and there's a predator and if you are blind drunk and wearing those clothes how able are you to get away?"
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/28/tory-mp-richard-graham-rape- ...[text shortened]... ld we live in today. Of course who knows what he is really accomplishing with that remark.
Originally posted by spruce112358The problem is that this comment and its ilk is often used to imply that the woman somehow deserved to be raped or that the perpetrator somehow shouldn't be as much to blame because of it.
Why is that more offensive than saying that if you leave your car unlocked, someone might be tempted to steal the change out of the cup holder?
Just so that we have it clear:
OK: Tell someone to be sure not to leave their car unlocked
NOT OK: Tell someone to be sure not to walk home drunk in a short skirt and high-heeled shoes in the middle of ...[text shortened]... wn Detroit singing show tunes at 2am with $100 bills sticking out of your pockets? OK or not OK?
Originally posted by PsychoPawnSuppose a bank invests without proper due diligence and loses everything to a Bernie Madoff type. Would you say the bank has been prudent?
The problem is that this comment and its ilk is often used to imply that the woman somehow deserved to be raped or that the perpetrator somehow shouldn't be as much to blame because of it.
In the case of leaving something in your car unlocked, do you think the person shouldn't go to jail for stealing from it? It is not as uncommon as you think for pe ...[text shortened]... with her legs spread. It is still rape and just as punishable if someone chooses to rape her.
Originally posted by spruce112358Suppose a bank invests without proper due diligence and loses everything to a Bernie Madoff type. Would you say the bank has been prudent?
Suppose a bank invests without proper due diligence and loses everything to a Bernie Madoff type. Would you say the bank has been prudent?
Suppose "a woman lies on her back naked at midnight in a bad neighborhood with her legs spread." Would you say the woman has been prudent?
Why should we be able to say that the bank has been imprudent but...for heaven sake's don't talk about that woman! It's offensive to make any remarks about her!
Originally posted by spruce112358Agreed. I said, "I think it is literally, simply a question the answer to which is, "Not as able as if you are sober and in running shoes, but possibly more able than if you are in a burqa or chadri", but it is both unnecessary and politically stupid to ask."
Why is that more offensive than saying that if you leave your car unlocked, someone might be tempted to steal the change out of the cup holder?
Just so that we have it clear:
OK: Tell someone to be sure not to leave their car unlocked
NOT OK: Tell someone to be sure not to walk home drunk in a short skirt and high-heeled shoes in the middle of ...[text shortened]... wn Detroit singing show tunes at 2am with $100 bills sticking out of your pockets? OK or not OK?
Originally posted by joe beyserSorry but if it has to be a revolver, I suggest a blued model, and a .357 is pretty bulky on an ordinary sized female. Regular female garb also presents some issues for concealed carry as well.
Women should get in the habit of wearing a holster with a stainless 357 revolver. Doesn't much matter then what else she is wearing now does it?
The post that was quoted here has been removedOf course, no rapist is excused by the dress of his victim. As I mentioned to you in another thread, a woman that is prepared to defend herself, by firearm, martial arts or flight, whatever, is also because of the thought that goes into that action be more in tune with risk avoidance. It is foolish for young women to go out dressed like hookers, and expect men, especially men who have been drinking to treat them like nuns.