Another Trump Slapdown from the SCOTUS

@no1marauder said
There is no "extraordinary situation". Illegal immigration into the country has been going on for many decades despite the right wing pretending it only occurred under Biden. Even at that, crossings dropped dramatically in 2024.

In fact, the vast majority of even undocumented immigrants make substantial contributions to the US economy esp. now when the country has a sh ...[text shortened]... is punching ourselves in the face to satisfy white nationalist goals unworthy of our diverse nation.

You are quite disingenuous. The numbers that came over all those years did not all of a sudden become 12 million in a heartbeat. It became 12 million because Joe Biden opened up the borders. I hate it that we have to use the exact phrase of what he did because it upsets you liberals and you get so angry.
Joe Biden opened up the border so millions could come in and vote for Democrats. Why don’t you deny that with a bunch of links?
If Sunhouse were a conservative, he would say that the Democrats were trying to set up a dictatorship by bringing in all of the illegals

@Rajk999 said
Why do you people continue to lie so blatantly. In or around 2022 to 23 Biden opened the Mexican border and flooded the US will millions of illegal immigrants. His effort to close it back in 2024 cannot be used as an example of a dramatic drop in border crossings, when in the prior 2 years it skyrocketed. You are such a deceitful liar.

That claim is made constantly with nothing to support it. Biden never "opened the border" and removals continued at a high pace in those years:

"US Immigration and Customs Enforcement deported 271,484 immigrants last fiscal year, marking the highest level of deportations since 2014, according to a newly released annual report."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/19/politics/biden-deportations-report/index.html

In sum, the Biden administration repatriated 4.7 million immigrants in its four years. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-deportation-numbers-obama-biden-b2649257.html

That you have been duped to believe a fairy tale doesn't justify calling those who point out the truth to you "liars". A retraction would be the proper thing to do.

@AverageJoe1 said
You are quite disingenuous. The numbers that came over all those years did not all of a sudden become 12 million in a heartbeat. It became 12 million because Joe Biden opened up the borders. I hate it that we have to use the exact phrase of what he did because it upsets you liberals and you get so angry.
Joe Biden opened up the border so millions could come in and vote ...[text shortened]... would say that the Democrats were trying to set up a dictatorship by bringing in all of the illegals

According to the Census Bureau, the total number of immigrants, including undocumented ones, grew by 3 million from 2020-23. https://www.cato.org/blog/immigrant-population-still-1-million-below-pre-trump-trend

That article by David Bier of the libertarian Cato Institute concludes:

" Right now, America’s politicians seem far more concerned with the supposedly unsustainable increases in immigration than the massive worker shortage, the collapse in the worker-to-retiree ratio, and the catastrophic loss of skilled workers from the United States to China and other countries.

America needs people both in the short and long term, and it needs workers of all skill types. Immigrants can help, and they should be allowed to do so legally."

@AverageJoe1 said
Joe Biden opened up the border so millions could come in and vote for Democrats. Why don’t you deny that with a bunch of links?

Why don't you defend your own conspiracy theory, Joe, instead of asking someone else to prove you wrong?

Reptoids exist. Prove me wrong.

@no1marauder said
That claim is made constantly with nothing to support it. Biden never "opened the border" and removals continued at a high pace in those years:

"US Immigration and Customs Enforcement deported 271,484 immigrants last fiscal year, marking the highest level of deportations since 2014, according to a newly released annual report."

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/19/politic ...[text shortened]... calling those who point out the truth to you "liars". A retraction would be the proper thing to do.

Biden was the President of the United States. Are you blaming someone else. Here are the Biden administration policies that caused the massive influx of immigrants at eh Mexican border from 2022 to 23.

1. Reversal and Relaxation of Trump-Era Policies - Upon taking office, President Biden reversed many restrictive immigration policies from the Trump administration, such as halting border wall construction, ending the travel ban, and narrowing deportation priorities to focus mainly on national security and violent crime. These actions were widely interpreted-both in the U.S. and abroad-as a signal that the border would be easier to cross and that enforcement would be less strict.

2. Public Messaging and Perception - Biden’s campaign and early presidency emphasized a more humane approach to immigration, which many migrants and smugglers took as encouragement to attempt entry into the U.S.. The New York Times and other analysts note that the “welcoming immigration policy” and rhetoric were a primary catalyst for the surge, with the administration’s later tightening of rules leading to a notable drop in crossings-suggesting policy changes had a direct effect on migrant flows.

3. Changes in Asylum and Legal Pathways - The administration expanded legal pathways for certain nationalities (e.g., humanitarian parole programs for Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans), but also struggled to process asylum claims quickly, leading to backlogs and the perception that once inside the U.S., migrants could stay for extended periods. The CBP One app and regional processing centers were introduced to encourage legal entry, but the overall effect was mixed, as many still attempted irregular crossings.

4. Enforcement and Title 42 Policy - While the Biden administration kept Title 42 (a pandemic-era policy allowing rapid expulsions), it did not resume normal asylum processing at ports of entry for much of 2022, causing many expelled migrants to make repeated crossing attempts, inflating the number of encounters. The lack of criminal prosecution for first-time crossers under Title 42 further reduced deterrence, encouraging more attempts.

5. Broader Context - While external factors like violence and economic hardship in migrants’ home countries were also significant, the sharp increase in crossings after Biden’s policy changes, and the subsequent drop when new restrictions were imposed, indicate that U.S. policy was a major driver.

From Perplexity AI.

@Rajk999 said
Biden was the President of the United States. Are you blaming someone else. Here are the Biden administration policies that caused the massive influx of immigrants at eh Mexican border from 2022 to 23.

1. Reversal and Relaxation of Trump-Era Policies - Upon taking office, President Biden reversed many restrictive immigration policies from the Trump administration, s ...[text shortened]... restrictions were imposed, indicate that U.S. policy was a major driver.

From Perplexity AI.

Even if all that was true (it is not), that still doesn't amount to the "open borders" claim that right wingers incessantly claim and that you endorsed.

EDIT: To remind you:

Rajk: In or around 2022 to 23 Biden opened the Mexican border

This is not true as I hope you now realize.

@no1marauder said
Even if all that was true (it is not), that still doesn't amount to the "open borders" claim that right wingers incessantly claim and that you endorsed.

EDIT: To remind you:

Rajk: In or around 2022 to 23 Biden opened the Mexican border

This is not true as I hope you now realize.

Yes by his policies Biden opened the Mexican border.
Hence the massive influx
Trump by his policies closed the Mexican border.
Hence the drastic decline.

This is true as I hope you now realise.

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The point is to be sure about the legailty before acting. How would you feel if you were deported to some Venezolean jail and the officers would just shrug and say: You have been unlucky, but we can't do anything about it?

@Rajk999 said
Yes by his policies Biden opened the Mexican border.
Hence the massive influx
Trump by his policies closed the Mexican border.
Hence the drastic decline.

This is true as I hope you now realise.

LMAO!

Right wingers refuse to admit error no matter what the facts are.

Whatever effect Biden's policies were, they did not amount to "opening the border" as you claimed. Your refusal to admit this is just arrogant stubbornness.

Trump's policies are largely illegal (like declaring the suspension of asylum and his use of the Alien Enemies Act) and will eventually be reversed. Biden, to his credit, did not act illegally just because there was an increase in crossings largely due to economic factors caused by the success of his policies compared to the rest of the world in the immediate aftermath of COVID.

EDIT: Here's some homework for you courtesy of Cato: https://www.cato.org/blog/biden-didnt-cause-border-crisis-part-2-did-biden-cut-enforcement

@no1marauder said
LMAO!

Right wingers refuse to admit error no matter what the facts are.

Whatever effect Biden's policies were, they did not amount to "opening the border" as you claimed. Your refusal to admit this is just arrogant stubbornness.

Trump's policies are largely illegal (like declaring the suspension of asylum and his use of the Alien Enemies Act) and will eventually ...[text shortened]... y the success of his policies compared to the rest of the world in the immediate aftermath of COVID.

Like a typical lawyer you are playing with words.

@Rajk999 said
Like a typical lawyer you are playing with words.

Maybe you should be more careful with your words rather than merely parroting propaganda.

@no1marauder said
According to the Census Bureau, the total number of immigrants, including undocumented ones, grew by 3 million from 2020-23. https://www.cato.org/blog/immigrant-population-still-1-million-below-pre-trump-trend

That article by David Bier of the libertarian Cato Institute concludes:

" Right now, America’s politicians seem far more concerned with the supposedly unsusta ...[text shortened]... needs workers of all skill types. Immigrants can help, and they should be allowed to do so legally."

I say 12 M plus gottaways, So do all the websites. Keep digging. Maybe if you got the Popeto confirm your piddling figures…….
Did you never see the nightly news? 5000 a day? 10,000 on one particular day. They lied!,!

@Rajk999 said
Like a typical lawyer you are playing with words.

When I read marauder posts on any subject, it is always defending something that no man in their right mind believes in. That my account for his underlying tone of angst. I think he likes the rag heads at Columbia, he likes the M13 guy, he likes getting peoples’ stuff, the list isa mile long. Note that he never uses the word phrase, illegal alien. “ no one is illegal!” The hell they’re not.
Think about it… Is there one thing that you believe in that he also believes in?

@wildgrass said
Why don't you defend your own conspiracy theory, Joe, instead of asking someone else to prove you wrong?

Reptoids exist. Prove me wrong.

It is all over the internet. I pick a side, you and Marauder pick a side. Say immigrant numbers. 12M or 3M? You go with Rachel Maddow, I go with every reporter at Newsweek.
One of us is wrong. Proof on internet, it doesn’t need you and me to explain it.

@no1marauder said
LMAO!

Right wingers refuse to admit error no matter what the facts are.

Whatever effect Biden's policies were, they did not amount to "opening the border" as you claimed. Your refusal to admit this is just arrogant stubbornness.

Trump's policies are largely illegal (like declaring the suspension of asylum and his use of the Alien Enemies Act) and will eventually ...[text shortened]... of Cato: https://www.cato.org/blog/biden-didnt-cause-border-crisis-part-2-did-biden-cut-enforcement

Someone of repute, golly maybe two people ,who do not have wadded-up panties like you do, said one time, maybe 2 times, that the Border was open.
Why would they say that, when it was obviously secured by Kamala? Jesus what a bunch of fools y’all are.