@earl-of-trumps saidCould you possibly save your hateful conservative screeds for Trump followers?
Marxists. Really.
Black Lives Matter: "We Are Trained Marxists" - Part I
[i]A recent survey by the Pew Research Center found that more than two-thirds of Americans support the Black Lives Matter movement. The high level of backing raises the question of how much the public knows about BLM.
On the surface, BLM presents itself as a grassroots movement ded ...[text shortened]... n this BLM organization is worth from donations, $250 Million came in from - who else, George Soros.
The rest of us have brains that can see through the BS.
@joe-shmo saidTalk to the Proud Boys/Oath Keepers about that.
Estimated $1,000,000,000 to $2,000,000,000 loss to public/private property in the US is related to George Floyd protests. How did they achieve such financial carnage by such passive and peaceful "banding together in the streets" I wonder? Do you suppose that's all pavement damage from the extra foot traffic?
@joe-shmo saidSo, even when given the answer, you ignore it.
As I already stated...related to the destruction of public and private property. Are you looking for an itemized list of awarded insurance claims? You're more than welcome to google it. I'm not going to waste my time posting links that you'll just dismiss because "The Guardian" couldn't be bothered to write on that aspect of the protests...
Here...case in point. They di ...[text shortened]... eguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/01/george-floyd-riots-violence-damage-property-police-brutality
One might think you had already made up your mind before the evidence.
@earl-of-trumps saidBut you already have made up your mind that BLM isn't worth supporting.
What if they are doing this to defeat fascism?
what if the state governor was a fascist who abuses his power?
I'll take people that fight for freedom any day
Can't have it both ways.
@joe-shmo saidBut that's not what happened, is it?
They are causally related. There is a "protest", and some of the "protestors" decide to burn buildings and trash property. If there is no "protest" there are no "protestors" that can decide to act in a criminal manner.
Imagine if you will, there is a protest marching down the street, and in their wake there are vehicles/buildings on fire, storefront windows smashed, and stolen goods. You trying to imply they are not causally related? How lawyerly of you...
/eyeroll
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@no1marauder saidI don't want this to get buried so I'm reposting here.
I believe the words "at the protests" are sufficiently clear in the English language.
For example, the storming of the Capitol and attempts to murder government officials occurred "at the protest" in Washington on January 6. Whereas, the smashing of windows at 1 am hours after and miles away from where a demonstration against police violence was held is not "at the protests".
@no1marauder
"For example, the storming of the Capitol and attempts to murder government officials occurred "at the protest" in Washington on January 6."
Out of curiosity: In that example, were the protestors at the insurrection or the insurrectionist at the protest?
"Whereas, the smashing of windows at 1 am hours after and miles away from where a demonstration against police violence was held is not "at the protests"."
Do you have evidence of an official "end of protest time" for said event? What internal organization dictates and enforces that "end of protest time". Furthermore, 100,000 people show up to such an event. What is the protests unique physical position?
@joe-shmo saidWhy? It hardly deserves a response being the type of senseless nitpicking you might think is a brilliant debating tactic, but is really pointless.
I don't want this to get buried so I'm reposting here.
@no1marauder
"For example, the storming of the Capitol and attempts to murder government officials occurred "at the protest" in Washington on January 6."
Out of curiosity: In that example, were the protestors at the insurrection or the insurrectionist at the protest?
"Whereas, the smashing of windows at 1 am ...[text shortened]... Furthermore, 100,000 people show up to such an event. What is the protests unique physical position?
Right wing attempts to conflate the protests with property destruction and mayhem which occurred independently of the protests (and would have occurred even if there were no protests) were a main propaganda theme of the 2020 election. That they are illogical and false will not stop you and the Earls of the world from repeating them.